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The Live Tweeting Party is over, and the verdict is in... Kody and his Kodettes© have officially (and collectively) jumped the IQ shark. Not to mention they remain TOTALLY CLUELESS why MSWC needs to be able to handle the looky lous trying to access the website every Sunday when their show is being televised.
I've gone through the...ummm...hundreds of tweets from last night's show and culled the best of the best for posterity.
Yeah Robyn, you just keep repeating that, OK?
I want @MeriBrown1 around not just in business (because she is amazing) but also to stay involved with the family.
— Robyn Sullivan Brown (@LuvgvsUwngs) June 16, 2014
Meanwhile, Robyn makes sure her fans know exactly how important MSWC is to the world in general, and the Brown family in particular. Yep, gotta pay those bills!
This business isn't just my "dream". It is about financially supporting our family more than anything! How many kids in college? Mortgages?
— Robyn Sullivan Brown (@LuvgvsUwngs) June 16, 2014
Ready for some Robyn style brown-nosing? Here's two more examples...
@realkodybrown you are the head of this family! I was so surprised you didn't feel like you are!
— Robyn Sullivan Brown (@LuvgvsUwngs) June 16, 2014
@rosecolored6 was an absolute rock star with our business plan! I am so grateful for her talents!
— Robyn Sullivan Brown (@LuvgvsUwngs) June 16, 2014
Just file this tweet under "Truth Hurts".
It is tough having someone criticize something you have put so much into. #sisterwives
— Robyn Sullivan Brown (@LuvgvsUwngs) June 16, 2014
I get passionate about our customers! They touch my heart. #sisterwives
— Robyn Sullivan Brown (@LuvgvsUwngs) June 16, 2014
Oh yes, I can definitely see that passion come out...particularly every Sunday when the MSWC gets overloaded and crashes. And touching your heart as well as your bank account, right?
We have several new projects we are working on for My Sisterwife's Closet. Keep checking back!
— Robyn Sullivan Brown (@LuvgvsUwngs) June 16, 2014
Makes no sense to keep telling people to come back later because when they do the site just crashes again!
We have upgraded our site several times but every week you all get jump on there at once and crash it! ;-) If you check back it will work.
— Robyn Sullivan Brown (@LuvgvsUwngs) June 16, 2014
How about getting a new server that can handle the traffic?
Overall I am so proud of our team/family! Everyone did a great job with the presentation. It was so awesome to come together and be united.
— Robyn Sullivan Brown (@LuvgvsUwngs) June 16, 2014
Funny, but it seems Robyn tweeted about everyone but Janelle. Did I miss a tweet? Could it be Janelle called Robyn out on her apparent not so great number crunching abilities? And Robyn's just a wee bit upset? Hmmmm.....Way to go Fleagh! Meri actually answered your hard-hitting question, kind of...
@MeriBrown1 the debate w Kollene Snow&KristenDecker? That was a LARGE crowd! You told SW viewers you weren't AT ALL nervous then. Whaddup?
— Fleagh (@Fleagh66) June 16, 2014
@Fleagh66 Not nervous about approaching them.
— Meri Brown (@MeriBrown1) June 16, 2014
And surely a new server doesn't cost $2.5 million...
"@iloveapiano: I think My Sisterwife's Closet website is overloaded with hits tonight!!" As always on a sunday night! #Sisterwives
— Meri Brown (@MeriBrown1) June 16, 2014
"@vclemens61: @MeriBrown1 2 people blow it up?" 2 million sure do!
— Meri Brown (@MeriBrown1) June 16, 2014
And just think, if those 2 million people had been able to get on your MSWC website, with only 1% buying something - let's say at $100 apiece, MSWC just lost $2000000 in potential sales. Hey, you wouldn't need to beg money from those mean ole venture capitalists!
Order "Kody Brown Family Limited Edition" CD on http://t.co/87wyVSz3TK , it will come signed by us AND the band @vanladylove #Sisterwives
— Meri Brown (@MeriBrown1) June 16, 2014
Not when the website server can't handle the traffic!
This "practice pitch" was completely thrown on us! Unexpected! #Sisterwives
— Meri Brown (@MeriBrown1) June 16, 2014
Yep, it definitely showed...
Because http://t.co/87wyVSz3TK is @LuvgvsUwngs dream I would support her of being CEO but I also back @realkodybrown as CEO 100% no question
— Meri Brown (@MeriBrown1) June 16, 2014
Don't you just love it when the actions of four women singlehandedly reverses about 50 years hard work of feminists world wide? Hand the company over to the husband, because sister wives can't manage each other when running a business. What the hell?Good Lord, who told this guy he was a good leader? He couldn't lead his wives to the ladies room...
We are preparing for a "Shark Tank" presentation. We started with 5 people each on a different page. Short on unity. #SisterWives
— Kody Brown (@realkodybrown) June 16, 2014
This is a struggle not just to look like a team, but to actually become a team. A good team! #SisterWives
— Kody Brown (@realkodybrown) June 16, 2014
Back to Nancy's office for a tune up. Okay, sorry, I feel a bit tired of constantly acquiring everyone's consensus. #SisterWives
— Kody Brown (@realkodybrown) June 16, 2014
Our business is not a dream, it supports our family. Viable and successful. Not a hobby! Get on board! http://t.co/1i8Ssxy10w #SisterWives
— Kody Brown (@realkodybrown) June 16, 2014
Okay, so Stan and Amy are our friends. But didn't those other investors seem sort of...uh, big for their britches? #SisterWives
— Kody Brown (@realkodybrown) June 16, 2014
I never made up any answers. It seemed like Stevie K did not know what she was talking about. #SisterWives
— Kody Brown (@realkodybrown) June 16, 2014
Business plan was solid. I don't know what Stan meant by "holes". It was a little over the top with the criticism. Shark tank. #SisterWives
— Kody Brown (@realkodybrown) June 16, 2014
Stan was spot on with his assessment. Kody, if you can't understand that your so-called business plan sucked eggs, MSWC is doomed under your leadership. You may quote me.
I now completely get why everyone says don't do business with family. It is really complicated ! #SisterWives
— Janelle Brown (@JanelleBrown117) June 16, 2014
So is that the reason why you wives threw in the towel and handed leadership over to Kody? A man who doesn't have the sense that God gave a goose?
As women we sometimes have to seek fulfillment even if it means possibly creating waves. It takes bravery to make those choices.#SisterWives
— Janelle Brown (@JanelleBrown117) June 16, 2014
I'd have to say putting Kody in charge did not take bravery. Was it stupid? Absolutely!!
I can only imagine what pitching would be like on Shark Tank. This pitch was a crazy intimidating thing.
— Janelle Brown (@JanelleBrown117) June 16, 2014
Janelle, I would pay money to see you and the rest of the Krew© on ABC's Shark Tank!
I hope you will keep checking back with the website. We have added some really great new products.
— Janelle Brown (@JanelleBrown117) June 16, 2014
Are these people serious?And finally we get a promise from Christine (or was this a threat?)
We were all crazy shocked by @realkodybrown 's declaration about not being a leader. See how we fix it in a couple weeks. #SisterWivea
— Christine Brown (@rosecolored6) June 16, 2014
Oh jeez, are you kidding me? Another storyline????
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Off Topic Thursday: Maddie's Move to Utah and Other Odd Tweets for June 19, 2014
Why do they keep saying someone needs to be the CEO? In the past, it was Meri and Robyn who were most involved with the business. Kody said he was in the dark about what was going on with it. If they are trying to re structure responsibilities..fine..but i don't get the need to apply for 2.5 million dollars. The business could not secure that dollar amount based on the sales they said they were doing. They don't need money to convert sales, they need a better focus on product and not assume throwing crap on there will be bought because people like them. How much does the trainer or VLL get for what they put on the web site.
ReplyDeleteOk, I have an idea for the Browns. Whenever your server goes down (which appears to be every time the show airs a first run show), offer your customer FREE SHIPPING on any orders placed within the next 3 business days No minimum order. That way, you are offering something for people to come back and buy something. How about that business plan?
ReplyDeleteCarol, Carol, Carol...you beautiful, naive fool...free shipping would be reasonable and professional...and not stupid as hell like all of their schemes.
DeletePlus, how would they gouge their loyal followers? Use your beautiful brain!
I would rather watch a session every week with the counselor than any more shows about MSWC or Janelle's journey with Sean.
ReplyDeleteAnd...Kody, if you can't remember, I know when you made a decision for the family that was not run by the committee...when you moved to Las Vegas. I am shocked that none of the wives reminded you of that.
Actually, I think one of them did mention it in passing.
DeleteThat move to Vegas was all him...no committee vote but lots of emotional blackmail that he would be arrested if they didn't flee across the border. Speaking of emotional, I would also love to see more episodes of Kody "emotionally vomiting" in therapy...now that was amusing!
DeleteSo Kody felt safe enough to emotionally vomit with the therapist he once called a crazy lady?
DeleteHe didn't seem to respect her, or Robyn for that matter, but yeah i wish they would show more of the therapy sessions. They are turning people off to their online business.
This was the worst Kody Brown episode I have ever seen. It just keeps getting worse. Prior to this series coming out on tv I thought marriage equality probably would be fine for polygamy also. This episode was yet another clear reason why it is BAD. These women have to go along with this complete garbage in order to get any attention from the husband. This man is crazy. I could easily see Kody being a Warren Jeffs if he were a little more important in the plyg hierarchy. He said himself he is drinking his own kool aide.
DeleteSo glad someone called out Meri on her public speaking phobia since she has been on stage at colleges and done talk shows looking cool, calm & collected. I think this is another case of the Browns creating drama and hoping we've forgotten what they did in past shows.
ReplyDeleteAlso wondering if the "great new products coming" and improved look of the website means they actually conned someone into investing in the Closet?
I have a theory that Meri was crying at the meeting about something else that they didn't want to disclose (yet) on the show so they made up the storyline about her extreme fear of public speaking. We don't really know in what order everything is filmed. Now, maybe she knew what a buffoon she (and the entire family) would look like and that's why she was crying. But I didn't buy that fear of public speaking thing at all
DeleteThe snot dripping on her table when her head was down was a nice touch. You know Meri has had to deal with blow back of people being charged for goods and not receiving them for more than 30 days. Robyn saying customers were pleased with product and receiving them timely was a lie. Wow big words for the brown's CEO CFO Kody didn't even know what they meant. They are probably a small sub chapter s..if they had the brains to protect their assets..here's hoping they have some saved...
DeleteMeri and Robyn have been doing MSWC all this time and while Robyn has been asking for help from the others, I always got the impression that Meri was very happy to be running the show. I feel like Meri is very bitter and pissed off that she has to now share the glory of building this business with the others and that is prompting her to disengage from the family.
DeleteI am ready to give up on this show. If there are any TLC producers lurking, please know that I would rather see the Brown Clowns being honest and showing their struggle instead of all this nonsense you are selling us.
Maybe Meri was so nervous because she knew they were un-prepared and were about to get their butts handed to them? She is smart enough to realize they were not going to look good at this meeting. Could also be she REALLY doesn't want anything to do with the business but is feeling pressured from all sides to stay involved.
DeleteThe web site is down!
ReplyDelete"Oh jeez, are you kidding me? Another storyline???? "
ReplyDeleteOf course, CJ !!! Always gotta have plan B ready to roll in case plan A bombs.
If I were one of Kody's stable mares, I would be VERY worried now of the potential of this being the swan-song season. (Kody hasn't got the brains to even think far)
There is just nothing new to pitch out there that will work for this crew now.
This is all ho-hum nonsense about a business that was defunct from the get-go. Moving forward to other possible ratings grabbers, there is nothing left to shill.
Problem is no matter what BS storyline they come up with, they still have these five people to "act it out !! "
Kody is repulsive now more than ever. Whoever thought that pulling that straggly mess back into a 1/8 inch wide ponytail was cool is as delusional as Kody already is.
Plus,his arrogance, translated by his beady,rodent eyes and idiotic mouth, is not helping the cause for acceptance or likeability.
Meri just plays the same character over and over. Scrunched up, orange face with tears and more tears. Doesn't matter what the scene is, eventually Meri will be blubbering and whining.
Janelle must have heard the call from CJ's Living Room to tone down that hooker eye make-up. At least she, or someone in the stable, is covertly reading. But even that needed adjustment won't help. Janelle is an imposter. She seems to get handed the best lines to effect having a smidgeon of common sense, but then it all fades into Brown BS when she lazily defers to Ponytail man.
Christine has the brass ovaries to speak her stuff when it moves her, but she too fades to gray when it is time to actually walk the talk. Like Janelle, Christine is wallpaper.
Sobbin can't act her way out of restroom. She is just too..uhh...stupid to ever pull off anything except doing what she's told....and then doing it badly. And crying !!
Sobbin shouldn't feel like she is the ONLY ugly crier...even though she definitely is an ugly crier !! But........Meri gives serious competition to that honor.
I thought the premier ep (last week I mean) they set up all the plot lines:
DeleteMSWC, teen sex, Kody competing for the Reality Douchebag Award, Robyn holding her uterus hostage, the Lehi house (I'm gonna guess there's dry rot or the washer overflowed or something...pretty mundane stuff that they'll stretch out over 3 eps I bet...when I was a claims adjuster, water damage like that was handled pretty quickly - adjuster goes out, meets with contractor, comes to agreed price/estimate, issues payment less deductible to contractor, waits for any supplemental billings, closes file, end of story. Zzzzz!
Oh and of course focus on Sean's attempts to get Janelle to lose another quarter pound.
Robyn has the frowniest frown on tv. It's almost a perfect upside down U, like her chin is going to detach from the rest of her face. She used it a lot during the couch THs.
DeleteI think Meri is the uglier crier. This show would be interesting if they focused on the daily life of the wives and what the kids are up to. Frankly, anything other than the MSWC garbage would interest me.
DeleteI wanted to reach through my TV and smack Robin. "I have the ugly cry". Really? Really?!? When you're supposedly so concerned about your business and securing this money to put food on your family's table, the biggest thing you can worry about giving the pitch of the lifetime is that you might look ugly? She sounded like a spoiled teenager, not a grown businesswoman. What a superficial moron.
DeleteGreat "tweetcap" cj, the browns are either faking this for a plot line or they really are this dumb. I have always thought that Janelle was the smart one and was secretly sewing a parachute for the crash. Now, I think that Meri may be the smartest one there. She is going back to school so that when this crashes, she will have a degree and sellable skills. She can walk away with no ties to any children at home and be fine. So, bottom line. . . Faking or real?
ReplyDeleteBy the way, did anyone notice that the good doctor had a large piece of paper taped to her office door with her name on it? Fake? Yes, I would say so. I don't know any real family therapist who would agree that airing sessions on tv is helpful.
So, I would say that this week was a 2 on the believability scale. I believe that Robyn and Meri ate lunch and that they were in Vegas. After that, not so much. I would stop watching if I didn't enjoy this blog so much.
"By the way, did anyone notice that the good doctor had a large piece of paper taped to her office door with her name on it? '
DeleteYes, I did. Looked odd, didn't it.?/!! As in makeshift ???
The only way a legitimate therapist would agree to that is possibly:
A- they need new (or any) clients.
B- they are getting *very well* paid for the gig.
Anon 4:16 - the therapist was having a neon sign made with her name in flashing lights, but she ordered it from MSWC so it'll be six months before she gets it and her name will be misspelled.
Deleteor the therapist is hoping for some of that Kody Brown Family gold and midus touch for her business. Yeah the sign was a joke.
DeleteYou betcha !!! Ha !!!
DeleteMaybe she doesn't want her real office shown on TV?
DeleteWell then that would mean that the shot of them outside the building was fake too.
DeleteSo why bother to do even do that???
Maybe it was the same room where the VC people were sitting all done with different furnishings.
And hey, maybe it was even the same room where they all met with Magic Mona for all those nail-biting, tear-jerking sessions.
We will never know, but we can wonder.
I have always thought that Meri is the smartest wife. Just look at which wife got the most expensive house, which wife has the most room in her house, and which wife's daughter is going to the prestigious college. I also think she is planning on walking away when the show is over.
DeleteI'm sure that was the therapist's actual office. It looks like my therapist's office. Cozy and shelves filled with books. She just put the honkin big sign so we could ALL SEE her NAME and call her because hey if she can keep five dysfunctional plygs together, then she's a miracle worker right? (answer - not necessarily).
DeleteIt might be a therapist's office but I don't think it was the Brown Family's Therapist Office. That would account for the tacky paper sign on the door. She was just borrowing the office for the show.
DeleteTo Anon 8:53pm -
DeleteNot defending Meri, but she has the same size house as the others. None the less I agree with your point.
Ugh, typo correction:
Delete***nonetheless
Abreva - Meri's home might be the same square footage but I think she paid more to have an extra room made so she could get the model with the wetbar, that we kept hearing about for what, 2 years...ugh.
DeleteWhen the floor plans were still available on the builder's website, it showed the combinations of upgrades to the floor plans. One such upgrade was adding the wet bar. Doing so meant losing the pantry. To have a pantry, an addition off of the kitchen was necessary. This addition included the pantry as well as the hobby room. Kind of like a combo deal. The builder did this to make sure the home was not built without a pantry. SWB still has the archive of a thread that shows the floor plans - just search for "floor plans" on the main SWB page.
DeleteAll four wives have the extra room off from their kitchen. The other wives justified getting the extra room because they have more kids. Robyn uses her hobby (extra) room for MSWC headquarters.
Meri just wanted to get the wet bar but didn't necessarily care about the extra room. But to get the wet bar, she had to get the extra room. Whereas the other wives didn't have to add the wet bar just in order to get the extra room. So the other wives have extra large hobby rooms because they don't have a wet bar in place of the original pantry, which means an additional panty does not eat into the hobby room space.
The extra room was not what made Meri's house more expensive than the other wives - it was the wet bar amongst other things. Such as her upgraded fixtures, lot square footage, as well as converting the den/office into an extended master bedroom retreat. Meri also flipped her floor plan. Not sure if that was extra.
...sorry didn't mean to derail the convo, just thought it might be interesting to some.
it is actually. I got so tired of the wet bar plot line all i remember is that she was whining about how the only way to get the wet bar was to have that pesky extra room. they didn't go over the details about the pantry or maybe I fell asleep by then!
DeleteYah me too. I was about to throw something at my TV if I heard the words wet bar one more time. Anyway, I remember wanting to get to the bottom of why the heck would a whole extra "wing" be required to be added just to get a stinking wet bar. So I researched it way back when and figured all that out.
DeleteShe wanted the hobby room and the wet bar. Not that any of the four other rooms, not to mention dining that Christine and Janelle enclosed could have been a hobby room. The entire family has parties at the other houses and they all have islands and loads of counterspace and no wet bar.
DeleteWhat's the difference between a hobby room and a bedroom anyway? No closet?
DeleteMy mom had her sewing machine and stuff set up in my twin sisters' room and it was just fine.
Well...Janelle is supposedly going to try rock climbing next week, since that's my latest passion, I'll be tuning in for that if nothing else...
ReplyDeleteBy the by, CJ I give you Snappity Snaps for that photo of Janelle you're using on this post. HA!!
ReplyDeleteMeri claims she lost her job because she came out as polygamist. Or was on TV. Or both. So what makes her think getting a degree will get her a new position? Especially after her behavior on TV?
ReplyDeleteshe lost her job because the agency she worked for was not comfortable with the publicity around Meri and with the show in general. You really can't work in a therapeutic setting while having your personal information so front and center, it violates all kinds of ethical codes and policies.
Deletehere's the issues I have with Meri's choice of career (helping "at risk kids"):
Delete1) she just doesn't seem the type to be DOING that kind of work. is it just me???
2) That kind of a career choice, you do out of passion, devotion, you don't do it thinking you're going to make beaucoup bucks.
3) she doesn't seem like a therapeutic type, sympathetic person, or someone who wants to apply themselves at ANYthing for that matter.
As a person in the mental health field I share all those concerns. I will add that she is also extremely emotionally unbalanced and would crumble under the pressures of working with adolescents. Not to mention constantly using the term "at-risk" youth which rubs me the wrong way. It is not a therapeutic term nor is it an empowering one.
DeleteAnd......it has never been made clear whether she was just a volunteer at the facility she was with, or whether she was indeed a staff member. But I do remember at the beginning episodes, it was said to be a part-time situation.
DeleteMy guess is that she was a part-time volunteer or if on the books, it was at a very low hourly rate, doing peripheral tasks which were not actually hands on counseling.
No behavioral health facility would want a staff member in the media, and certainly not one on a controversial reality show. And Meri surely would have known that !
So Meri wasn't fired as much as Meri chose to *get herself relieved* of her job.
No, I don't see Meri doing this type of work at all! She does not like conflict, she cries at the drop of a hat. Working with 'at risk' kids would be hard, she would have to deal with their conflict (and possible hosility towards her) and help them work on relationships (which she struggles with). I think it just sounds good to say "I want to go to college and then work with at risk kids"....sounds more noble. And perhaps makes her feel she is making up for not having the 8 kids she wanted.
DeleteI don't think Meri really ever intends on working again. I'm not a mental health care professional but I think Anon 10:07 made some pretty salient points, including the use of the term "At Risk Kids". I seem to recall in the first season, they showed a brief clip of her putting a jacket on a little kid while her VO explained that she worked part time.
DeleteI DON'T think they asked her to leave/fired her/whatever it was because she was plyg. I watched a bit of the first ep this morning. It seems obvious that the town of Lehi was well aware (and didn't care) that the Browns were plyg. Logan mentioned that other kids called them "plyglets" and Kody laughed like it was no big deal. They were on the BBC and made appearances for Principle Voices. She wasn't fired cos she was plyg.
Also, I remember in their book it was acknowledged that Meri generally only worked part time and had a tendency to leave her job (as did Kody) when they decided they wanted to take off somewhere. yup great work ethic...
I agree with that, I don't think she was asked to leave for any other reason than she wasn't a good, reliable employee. Janelle clearly lays it out in the book that Meri and Kody took off all the time, leaving jobs behind, to take trips and goof off....while Janelle stayed home and worked. We still see that now...how many times have we seen tweets from Meri that she went to Utah or Disneyland or Idaho...
DeleteIf she can't fix her own life, and is part of a circus show life, she might feel that helping someone else (youth) makes her useful.
DeleteI think that her desire is probably somewhat noble, but I agree that she's not in a place to actually benefit those youth; her own instability/dysfunctional family/emotional issues will stand firmly in the way. Plus, what agency would hire her after having seen all those trainwreck SW episodes??
Good for Meri going back to school, but watch out Aspyn, she's going to join your sorority and go to all the parties with you. I think Meri wants to be the "cool, hip" mom on the cul de sac.
DeleteMeri doesn't need a degree to work with the "at risk" kids in her own backyard.
Delete"Christine has the brass ovaries to speak her stuff when it moves her, but she too fades to gray when it is time to actually walk the talk."
ReplyDeleteYep, yep, yep. I'd argue that Christine's able cadences are rooted in her years as a plyg apologist. Unfortunately for the Krew, she has also internalized the tactic of blurting out a circuitous, knee-jerk word salad when asked a tough question.
When one of the VCs asked if $2.5 mil was going to be enough (!) Christine suddenly started rambling about how they don't want to borrow too much money (!!) because then they could get lazy and might not pay the money back. OMG--red alert!
I am still stunned by that remark--that ALONE is enough to put the kibosh on capitalizing these folks (let alone their troublesome financial past, their giant mortgages, and their pie-in-the-sky notion that they will magically make $10 mil by 2017). I love ya, Janelle, but what the hell are you smoking?
Do you think that Maybe Christine was a little too quiet last night? I think she was laughing up her sleeve and wanted the public to see the joke that MSWC is, mostly thanks to Robyn. Her telling Robyn that it was ok to cry at an important meeting like that was very telling. A true friend who wants someone to succeed would never give such bad advice and let their friend look bad, not even to save their feelings.
DeleteOh my goodness! As soon as the words left Christine's mouth; my hand hit my forehead and I asked myself why would she say that? Lend us some money and we might not repay it. That certainly makes me feel confident to invest a couple million. All the Browns need to learn "it's better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." I really like Janelle but she's just as delusional as the rest of them.
DeleteI think try all cry so frequently they consider it normal behavior. They may make fun of it, but at the end of the day they validate it. I don't think they realize that out here in the monogamist world we aren't all walking around with tissue boxes.
DeleteChristine is a simpleton. She is afraid of toasters. She calls herself a princess. She didn't recognize that Truely was having a medical emergency for several days. I do not think she would be able to come up with a plan to make Robyn look bad at the meeting, Robyn can take credit for that herself. :-)
DeleteCarol - I was tormented by mean girls all through school...I can smell em a mile away. And some of them were the dimmest people I've ever met in my life.
DeleteThere are definitely semi-mean girl vibes running through all the wives, except for the most part it comes out as passive-agressiveness and verbal bullying. Also through Twitter, I think we've all seen the women make veiled rips on the others, even Janelle.
I watched this ep again last night and paid careful attention to Christine's "presentation" and her remarks about how she LOVES marketing. I beg to differ. She doesn't have a clue what "marketing" really is. All she knows how to do is google a bunch of Captain Obvious statistics, put them together and then give a speech. I do admit that she is good at speaking to a group...probably from her time with Principle Voices, where they probably gave her the statistics and told her what to say and she said it.
Captain Obvious! Love that!
DeleteI still want to.know what's" ironic" about women buying jewelry for themselves. Did she mean "interestingly? "
DeleteChristine seems like a skilled manipulator. She might be a toaster-fearing dim bulb, but old girl knows how to play people ... family members and audiences included, whether live or on Tv. She was probably trained well, watching all those "wives" in her family interact with each other as she was growing up!
DeleteI wouldn't put anything past any of these women.
@realkodybrown
Delete"We are preparing for a "Shark Tank" presentation. We started with 5 people each on a different page. Short on unity."
"This is a struggle not just to look like a team, but to actually become a team. A good team!"
But, they expect investors to give $2.5M to a 'team' that ISN'T one and that just prior to the meeting was "5 people each on a different page. Short on unity." Anyone who can't see the disconnect and sheer lunacy of thinking people would seriously invest in their 'business' (that is actually someone's pipe dream/hobby) needs their heads examined. IF those investors are legit and truly professionals they would be laughing and shaking their heads at how ridiculous and amataur the Brown's "scheme" was. IF the investors give MSWC any substantial money they deserve to lose their money.
I don't know about the venture capitalists. Is there any way to check and see if they are a legitimate group in LV? I didn't think it was possible the Brown Clowns would get the money to buy their cul-de-sac homes, but somehow they did. I am afraid that the TLC may help them out enough to actually get the capital. That would be a travesty.
ReplyDeleteThose acting credits in Robyn's IMDb must be miscredits because her acting is awful. D: Also, she needs to be careful what she wishes for in regards to help for MSWC. There's more to having a business than looking cute in your own store, as I imagine even she's gathered, but she needs to watch it before Kody *marries* more help into the family.
ReplyDeleteHave the producers been plotting to edit Kody into an asshat for awhile now? I mean, more than normal? Not to say there's hasn't plenty of fodder over the years to choose from, but he's seemed to transform from a goofy plyg Crood into a raging douche starting with that, "Anyone who acts up during the commitment ceremony is kicked out of the family." comment and it's gone downhill from there.
Let's face it, Social Media, especially facebook meets their target audience. Most housewives/40ish women who are ordering their stuff are on facebook. They get FB, twitter...not so much. My point of this is this is FREE advertising and until last week they had not posted to their FB page since Jan/Feb. It's like unless their is some holiday like Valentines Day or the Show is airing, they don't bother. And I have never been a Meri fan but Robyn's reaction to Meri wanting to go back to school was bizarre. So affraid she will go out in the real world and maybe realize this whole plural marriage thing is not what its cracked up to be..
ReplyDeleteI highly doubt this is the case, but Robyn was acting like Meri was her lover, not just her sister wife last night. It was super creepy. I wouldn't even get that upset about my husband going back to college, I can't understand why Meri cannot go back to finish her degree without it being such an ordeal for Robyn. It is really, really strange.
DeleteAnon 9:05 - it's the Crab Bucket Syndrome. You have a bucket of captive crabs, but when one tries to escape, the others pull him back down into the bucket. Meri is not trying to escape but she's trying to broaden her horizons (I'm just assuming she's sincere about the college thing and it's not just a storyline) and Robyn keeps pulling her back down. because she wants her to always be the MSWC envelope stuffer "forever AND EVER". gag me.
DeleteAnon 9:05, I think Meri's choice is an incredible threat to Robyn. Sobbin Robyn signed on to be the wind beneath Kody's wings, and now she's stuck in a gilded cage. Yes, she lives in a giant pre-fab mcmansion outside of Las Vegas (my idea of a circle of hell); she also has four children, 1/4 a husband, and the only sister wife who kinda liked her is wanting more. Robyn's stuck; she's committed to a man who wants "a few more children," and she knows that those kids either have to come out of her, or her 1/4 husband will become a 1/5 husband. She has buried herself in a hobby business that is a massive debacle. Meanwhile, Meri is about to enjoy the liberty of the empty-nester, and Robyn is scared to death that Meri will make outside friends and grow as a person--she can't force Meri to fit her own agenda, and after all her dissing of the non-polygamous world, here's Meri going out to enjoy herself in it. The horror!
DeleteI don't know why, but Janelle's use of the word "products" in her MSWC tweet irritates me. She might as well used "widgets" instead Why couldn't she have used the words watches or jewelry. Seems more personable that way.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if the business plan they left with the investors was riddled with as much misspellings and grammatical errors as MSWC site. Yeah, sure the Browns totally knocked that presentation out of the park.
It's always a good idea to insult the VC lady of whom you're asking $2.5M from. She only asked legitimate business questions and Kody had to make an insulting remark on Twitter about her cleavage! Stan did him a favor and Kody paid him back by publicly criticizing his business associates. I'm sure the Browns will be fed to the wolves next time! Then there will be a need for tears!
Kody showed yet again that he is threatened by any woman with power and how little respect he has for women in general. Newsflash Kody, you were asking that woman for money, she could have been wearing a clown costume and it wouldn't matter. She had the power and didn't need a darn thing from the Clown Crew. The comments about Stan were just as uncalled for. Way to burn your bridges Brown family.
DeleteGee, do you think it ever occurred to the village idiotic and his handmaidens that the VC lady and gents just may have seen their twitter remarks ??
DeleteAnd so will any future VC's they may try to hit up for easy money see what they write about people from whom they are trying to con money.
These stupid, stupid people have documented just how classless and foolish they are....all of them !!
And did they already get a big, fat resounding NO from the VC folks (which unfortunately probably wasn't filmed) and so the newly-appointed junk joolery CEO was actively being what he is...a nasty, resentful boy-man??
I'm hoping next week's "meeting" with "good friends" Amy and Stan will be them relaying the "sad" news that this group of "investors" said HELL NO!!
DeleteOmg, cynical jinx, I found you guys....oh I have missed you all so much!
DeleteI'm going to spend some time catching up on back post. I'm so happy I found you all.
Hey lisasumms!
DeleteWelcome!!
Website is still down. Wonder if it shut down for good? These shows were taped months ago and maybe they threw in the towel. Glad they have extra money for Meri to go to college. Is she going to a local community college or university, or somewhere in Utah? What does she want to get a degree in? Why aren't these types of issues addressed on their show?
ReplyDeleteI was on the website about two hours ago. It's still there, ugly flash images and craptastic trinkets galore.
DeleteIn her lunch with Kody, Meri told him she was going to UNLV.
I thought she might have planned to be Mariah's roommate or headed back to Lehi. I believe she wont be majoring in fashion design. Oh, that was mean...
Delete...specializing in tiny little jackets.
DeleteMeri did post on MSWC facebook asking for customers to share their experience with MSWC. If it is used on their marketing they will receive a shopping coupon. YEAH! but..the website is still quite fractured. It will come up from time to time but the "producrs" are not available
ReplyDeleteWow, a new low for Kody Brown. You NEVER attack or call out people on public forums when you are a public figure (that hurt to type), particularly those who tried to help you. He is such an immature, ignorant, jerk. No, those other investors did not seem "a little big for their britches". They seemed like intelligent people who saw right through the Browns lack of preparation and joke of a business. Kody really showed yet again that he doesn't respect women. I cannot believe he thought they nailed that "presentation". The Browns obviously didn't know what they were talking about, not Stevie.
ReplyDeleteIsn't it strange the amount of money they are asking for would just about pay off the houses? Where did they come up with that dollar amount 2.5 million. The business does not need that much dough. What about a small business loan? They said they had been self funding. It's a story line.
ReplyDeleteTiny Jacket--outstanding screen name. I'm convinced Meri must only look at herself from the waist up in real life, and when she watches the show tells herself, "The camera adds 40 pounds; the camera adds 40 pounds..."
DeleteI've also heard the camera can add a psychotic personality.
DeleteLe Petite - hilarious!
DeleteLePetite,
DeleteStill laughing !!
Great Review, CJ! I am just wondering if Stan and Amy from Ecasi Consulting, LLC are really venture capitalists or just consultants that show people how to get monetary backing? Kody and Robyn are such fools. Why would any serious venture capitalist waste their time with these people? I would doubt being on a TV show would be alluring to any serious investor. Kody and Robyn are grifters and manipulators but not smart enough to be friends with someone of investor status. ... Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the Nevada SOS , they are past due filing their annual list ( due May 31 ) and had only been in business for 1 year . Seems like another story line for the show .
Deletewell I just took a look at the company's website. It's VERY generic. and bare bones. They don't give much info do they? and I doubt that the Ritz Carlton is working with them on any major project...I think they're fluffing. And only a year old...I wonder how long ago the ep was filmed...I smell setup.
Deleteoh and according to Stan's LinkedIn profile, he's also head of one of their "clients" , Xperience Management Group.
DeleteNow compare the Stan's website to business consultant Scott Acton's website for Forte. Big difference, and Scott's clients apparently didn't mind him listing them as projects. Ecasi's website alone is why I think the two "investors or venture capitalist" were most likely hired to be there. I would think any serious vc would be appalled to be associated with such a rag tag group like MSWC.
DeleteBut Jerrod can leave his amortizing scientific calculator under my bed any time he wants!
DeleteStan's group invests in payday loans! That is the PERFECT "bizness" for the Browns. It could be called My SisterWife's Checkbook. The Browns themselves are the perfect snapshot of the payday loan borrower. They would have the marketing in the bag. Their fan base is big enough to get the business up and running. They could even set up a hotline to cry with their customers. The downside is there would be some work involved...
DeleteMA, I saw that too. Payday loans are absolutely anethema to me. The market that those business are aiming for are people who can't handle their money at all, and they quickly get underwater.
DeleteAnd you gotta know that the payday loansharks' target market is lower class folks who can't stay away from the lures of the casinos in Vegas.
DeleteThoughts about Meri going to college and Robyn feeling threatened.
ReplyDeleteI totally see that Meri is seriously depressed at this point. Crying over the contractor convo with Kody, crying over having to speak at the pitch meeting. As they say ''It's never about the.."(insert what the person is crying about). This woman is a mess. Mariah leaving home for college has shown her that once she is gone for good..then what? She is looking for a way to heal herself. A separate identity from "the family". College is a good start, maybe some medication..even temporarily could help.
Robyn feels "ditched". This is less about MSWC than it is about "promises" that she feels Meri made to her to lure her in. It's all there in the episodes from the beginning. Robyn wanted what she saw back in Utah. She wanted co-parenting from the SW. She wanted support with her kids.
The funny thing is that her joining the family and the show itself were catalysts that brought about the big change. These women have no desire to live that way again.I don't think Kody does either. As a previous poster pointed out, it is up to her solely to keep having babies,and to take care of them. Kody said himself to his infertile wife.."I will continue to have more children",(What a gem this guy is). Robyn..this means you!!
I also think Kody knew that moving to Vegas would happen before the show began. It was most likely pitched as future storyline along with 4th wife Robyn.
Never been the leader? ALWAYS been the leader, ALWAYS will be. Leader is a strange term for a "family". Creeps me out every time they say it.It reminds me of the Manson Family. Just Charlie and his girls. Evil stare and all!!
I agree with you, kimbagirl. Robyn believed the advertising. She was getting married to a fabulous man and would forever have a honeymoon experience with him. Meri promised her that she would help take care of her kids, be her bestest friend forever, they would run the business together...they would be the two favorite wives and make fun of the other two and giggle about them. Meri would cook her (healthy) meals and take care of her kids when she felt overwhelmed. Janelle would pay her bills and give her some of her finite resources. Well, Christine would have a total breakdown but that just can't be helped... Robyn would have bunches of bonus children who would be playmates, built-in babysitters and would honor and respect her.
DeleteAnd now, Robyn realizes it was all a lie. Kody barely tolerates her anymore. She had better have another baby or plan for Wife #5. She has a business that she had absolutely no skills to run. Kody expects from her what he has always expected from the other wives - make some money, raise your kids and quit complaining.
She probably didn't know she was being used solely to get the show. She is most betrayed by Meri because Meri is the one who schemed for this marriage and promised her the world.
I think Meri has been a lost soul since this series started; she just can't hide it anymore. She has admitted that her relationship with Kody was fractured when she encouraged him to court Robyn. Then BAM! Robyn joins the family, and BAM! they move, and BAM! King Sol is born, and BAM! house drama, and then finally BAM! Mariah goes off to college. I'm amazed she's held herself together this long.....She's definitely trying to find a way to define herself and validate her existence in this family.
DeleteIMO whatever sadness/loneliness/desertion Robyn is feeling, she just deserves. I have no sympathy for her at this point.
I agree with that assessment, too, kimbagirl. I think part of Robyn's objection to Meri's plan (regardless of how she frames it for the viewing public) is that MSWC is actually giving her a taste of entrepreneurship and creative outlet, of developing her own sense of self apart from babies and homemaking (I was a SAHM for a very long time, so I'm in no way denigrating that position), and she's liking it a lot.
DeleteBUT: she is still very much tied down to the demands of mothering young children, is expected to be producing even MORE children, and watching Meri making her own choices is a BIG FAT BITTER PILL TO SWALLOW. Tough old world, Robyn, but that was what you signed on for, honey. She loves declaring the amazing benefits of plyg life and claiming that we benighted monogs just haven't a clue, but when it doesn't work out the way she wants it to, she gets pissy.
Meri never banked on Robyn and Kody falling in love..His relationship with Janelle was "platonic"..( but they still had six kids..??) ..and Christine "disgusted" him( again,six kids..??). Meri knew he needed a new baby maker and he had a track record of being able to marry and reproduce with women without really being in love...a divorced woman with 3 kids seemed like a safe bet to fill that role. Robyn and Kody falling in love and having the hots for each other blindsided and threatened Meri..the "Lover". She is still reeling from that.
DeleteAs we see Robyn's honeymoon phase coming to an end,she is merely a means for more children. Children that she alone will need to raise and care for. Promises from Meri are all but forgotten. Meri is not nurturing to any of those "bonus" children..why should Robyn's babies be any different. The only one who truly seems nurturing to the "bonus" children is Christine.
Me thinks you shoulda been a little nicer to Christine, Robyn!! Oh well..you teamed up with the wrong Sister Wife!! Meri is looking at you in the rear view mirror!! So long Loser!
Meri's child has already moved out, Janelle's and Christines are getting older and Robin sees them finding new interests and being more independent since they're not as tied down with infant and toddler care. I think she sees them outgrowing the idealistic polyg lifestyle she's convinced she loves and she's feeling abandoned. I used to feel sorry for all of the women but I've finally accepted the fact that they're grown women with free wills and can make decisions for themselves and their families and if they won't do something about their unhappiness, then I'm not going to be upset about it if they aren't.
DeleteI remember another decision Kody made without the committee.......Robyn's wedding dress.
ReplyDeleteI forgot about that one! And I don't believe he sought full committee approval to find/court a new wife...from their book it looks like that was all Kody and Meri,
Deleteboston corgi, I agree with you. Remember when Christine made the comment that Kody had been dating Robyn for more than two weeks before she even knew about her? That's not exactly a committee decision.....
DeleteReally perplexed with their concept of "self-funding."
ReplyDeleteDoes hawking industrial metal--scrap looking, plyggie, adolescent junk joolery fall into that category? And bellyaching about "finite funds" hoping to guilt fans to buy their junk?
And using their show status to seduce venders and trades people to comp them?
And how about their collective, well-documented exploitation of the welfare system and the bankruptcy process?
And now expecting VC folks to pour more money into their "wants."
Is this what they mean by "SELF-funding?"
I want to know if their 180,000 they made last year was before or after all expenses.
ReplyDeleteAnd OMG if someone gives them 2.5 MIL I will slowly stab myself to death.
Am I the only one who yelped out loud when they suddenly flashed to Kody with his hair in a ponytail? They should have flashed a warning on the screen before they showed that!!!
Considering their tendency to stretch the truth, $180K was probably sales before expenses (gross, pun intended). The idea that a polygamy-based product line can sustain their family long-term is ludicrous. Like the woman investor said, they have a "captive audience" now; after this show is over - and it WILL be over soon IMO - they'll be lucky to get any traffic at all on that web site.
DeleteHaha!
Delete*ALERT**ALERT* The following images may be disturbing to some viewers ... images include boring joolery, tears tears tears, emotional blackmail, passive-aggressive comments, and passionless kissing between two (or more) people with zero chemistry, one of whom being an egomaniacal polygamist with a horrifying ponytail. You have been warned.
I am getting really bored with this show. And, I do check out their website but NOT as a potential customer. I like to laugh there. I imagine many feel that way.
ReplyDeleteMe too- I popped over just to see the new, improved site! The strange thing was there was no "add to cart" button beside any of the items. No wonder "millions" of people leave without buying...how the heck do you check out?!
DeleteBC, I think their website is having mega issues right now. Sorry, but it is SO PATHETIC how those idiots throw away so many opportunities to make money. It's almost like they (meaning Kody since he's the CEO supposedly) WANT TO FAIL !
DeleteAll they have to do is mention MSWC during their show or tweet to their fans about VLL and people will flock to their website. But what happens when they get there? A frickin' database not found error, or worse a 404 error.
And Meri thinks it's funny that 2 million people crashed their server. No Meri, it isn't funny because that was MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKET!
Now everyone knows why MSWC can have 18 million hits but only get 500 sales. And Earth to Kody and Krew©, telling your customers to come back later IS NOT CUSTOMER SERVICE!
Sorry for the rant but I just get so mad when I see this level of business incompetence.
Ok, I just went back because I got to thinking about that 404 error.
DeleteWhen did mysisterwifescloset.com become a "Just Another WordPress site" ??? And why is it MY SITERWIFES CLOSET on my browser tab?
When you click on the pink "SHOP NOW" button, you get the 404 error message.
You have to click where they show the Featured Products to get into the items for sale. Looks like the add to cart button is active there.
Do the Browns even check to see if their website is completely functional? I would be checking EVERY DAY. I do that for My Living Room.
Something fishy is going on here!
Hm and CJ, I don't know if you looked at that tracking site that I linked on the last blog post but (from memory) there were warnings about the safety of the site. I would NEVER put my personal and CC info in there, it's just screaming "compromise my data".
DeleteOf course maybe Robyn changed the ISP and might have misspelled the tab info, but still. It SCREAMS unsafe to me.
"Do the Browns even check to see if their website is completely functional? I would be checking EVERY DAY. I do that for My Living Room."
Delete"Something fishy is going on here!"
CJ- Agreed, very fishy. Then again you are a legitimate successful blog admin (checking your website daily if not more), and the Browns are... well... not legitimate or successful. BLAH!
OK...now the little carts have returned so things can be purchased!! Seriously, if they depended on this online business to help support them they would have hired a tech personal long ago. I always felt MSWC was created for some tax reason or as a new story line because they simply don't care...even the website says MSWC is "our little adventure to see if our dreams come true". I don't think this little adventure is a serious business to them.
Deletethere were warnings about the safety of the site.
DeleteI noticed that the url doesn't have https. Even in checkout, it's only http. So I looked at their Privacy Policy and it says "All sensitive/credit information you supply is transmitted via Secure Socket Layer (SSL) technology and then encrypted into our databases to be only accessed as stated above."
When did SSL stop using https? I already know the answer...it hasn't.
Absolutely scary now...
Yup I noticed that too CJ. It's clear they just copied/pasted. I just ran it through my company intranet (which has a VERY strong security firewall) and got a security warning message. Like I said...it's a data compromise catastrophe waiting to happen. The Browns can be on the hook for some very substantial fines/penalties through Visa/MC/AMEX and their acquiring bank (not to mention losing their right to accept payment cards) if they don't fix that ASAP.
Deletebut on the bright side I did notice that Robyn (who I'm sure is the "web development dept") finally fixed the header to read "MY SISTERWIFES CLOSET" although it still says Just Another WordPress Site...lol
And am I the only one who asks, "WHY would Mary even consider going back to school when there are so many of their kids headed for college? And they've already complained they don't have enough money to send those kids to college! I mean, who does that? How selfish. A mother puts the needs of her children (and yes, even bonus children) first.
ReplyDeleteIf UNLV is like some other universities (including the one at which I teach), multiple members of the same family get tuition reductions. Logan and Aspyn are already at UNLV, so if Meri attends there, too, there might be a significant tuition break for her, as well as for subsequent Brown children. And it likely wouldn't matter if Meri and the kids aren't related by blood--stepparents and stepchildren receive the same tuition waiver benefit. And with multiple children attending university at the same time, all the kids likely qualify for full Pell grants and other government-sponsored, need-based tuition assistance.
Deleteno, I thought exactly the same thing.
Delete"WHY would Mary even consider going back to school when there are so many of their kids headed for college?
DeleteI was watching 'Big Love' on HBO. The replay is now into season 2. I completely forgot about this one storyline: Barb (wife #1) depressed over the Mother of the Year incident, decides to - hold onto your chapeaus - go back to college!
It seems the producers are still following the 'Big Love' playbook. Oh, and guess what else started in season 2...Bill starts courting his 4th wife.
"all the kids likely qualify for full Pell grants and other government-sponsored, need-based tuition assistance."
DeleteThere is no way the Browns kids could qualify for Pell grants or any other needs program being their parents are on a TV show. They have to complete a FAFSA. When I was in college I worked full time as well as attended college full time. When I filed for grants, scholarships etc the results from FAFSA said I could pay for my own college without any assistance. I found out others were in the same boat, so lucky for us our employers reimbursed our tuition, so we used credit cards to pay tuition, and paid off the balance once our companies reimbursed us and repeated the cycle each semester.
Interesting !!
DeleteForgot about Barb going back. And I remember it was only for a few classes.
Meri may not take on a full course load either since she seems to like part-timing.
Guess TLC thinks that the BL storylines kept that show on, why not run them all again.
** Bring on Sobbin's replacement !!!! ** I'll watch that one !!!
As for Meri and college and the sniveling of telling Sobbin the news...
Just like people are saying, Meri wants out of the junk jools store. Maybe she even wants out of *having* to be in close proximity to Sobbin on a regular basis.
The only excuse she could use which would be digestible and unchallenged is going back to college. Not only will it fill hours in a day but also hours needed for studying.
Even it is just one or two courses a semester..It gets Meri out of the closet.
(pun intended...maybe)
Anon 11:22 - It has been a while since I filled out FAFSA but I specifically remember for the first two years of college I was a dependent of my mother and therefore was considered in her income bracket so I didn't qualify for any Pell Grant $$$. However, once I claimed myself as an independent I qualified.
DeleteAll but one of the Brown kids are from large families - 3 of the families are considered to have single mothers so this would be to their favor when applying. I guarantee they claim their college age kids as dependents. This is selfish of them because they get the tax break but their kids have to ultimately take out more student loans to pay for school, books, life, etc.
I could be wrong. I do recall seeing Logan working in the registrar office at UNLV one day (I am often on campus because I am in a graduate program at UNLV). I specifically thought to myself that he must be trying to cut ties to his parents financially/legally so he can qualify for aid. Student workers in some (essential) departments are considered independent - which I believe the office of registrar qualifies.
To be honest, I (who am in NO WAY a Brown apologist!) do not view Meri going back to college as selfish. Here's why:
DeleteIF (and this is a huge IF) the Brown women actually walked their talk and all of them worked synergistically in the one-big-family dynamic they espouse, then I'd say, well, why is Meri able to take away this time and use resources to go back to school right now? But the REALITY is that these women absolutely do not function in the polygamous la-la land they pretend to. Yes, I think the kids are very much bonded siblings in every sense of the word. But these are four separate households with a common baby daddy.
However much Robyn wants to deny it, Meri is now an empty-nester and as such may just as well enjoy her relative liberty. She may find that this new freedom is something of a balm for the disappointment and heartache she lived for so many years of fertility problems. Additionally, tuition at UNLV is not that high, especially with multiple family members attending, so it's not like it's a massive outlay of capital for her to get a bachelor's degree.
I have often been utterly disgusted by Meri, but I am cheering her on in this decision. GO MERI, GO!
I think Meri going to college is selfish only in that there are tons of kids who could use that tuition money themselves. But, it is probably the LEAST selfish of Meri's selfish actions--it's certainly less selfish than the wetbar nonsense or the needing a five bedroom house for no real reason or in getting an equal share of the TLC $$ despite having the least amount of mouths to feed. At least going to college, there's a chance to better herself. Hopefully she won't have a weird meltdown about speaking in front of the class during her first presentation, though ;)
DeleteMeri will probably be able to get a better paying job with a college degree, which will allow her to contribute more to the family.
DeleteAt the moment, they have the TV money and education is a good investment. Certainly better than blowing it on material junk. When the show ends, she will be in a better position to support the family(or herself if she leaves).
I hope so. My husband and I both have masters degrees (engineering and counseling) and we can't afford to live nearly as extravagantly as the Browns and we only have three kids. A bachelor's does increase earning potential a little but it will not pay for the french door dreams and wet bar wishes Meri is used to. Hopefully it will be a gateway for Meri to become more open minded and less self centered. Maybe she could study busness and then run a non-profit agency to help battered women and children or something. That's a storyline I'd like to see.
Delete"... there are tons of kids who could use that tuition money themselves."
DeleteBut, they're not Meri's kids. Of all the shams that they perpetuate, the 'bonus kids' sham is pretty big. I have no doubt that they care for each other's kids, but they don't feel responsible for them -- especially monetarily. Every woman for themselves, it seems.
One area that Meri outsmarted everyone, and I can't say that I blame her!
"But, they're not Meri's kids"
DeleteYa,, they're only Meri's kids when it's time to file for bankruptcy....
Who in the Brown family wants to be involved with MSWC? I think it's only Robyn. Maybe Christine, on a marginal basis, so she doesn't have to do crazy things like work weekends or be away from home. Janelle has stated many times she has no interest in jewelry and I also think she at one point asked to NOT be involved because she wanted to pursue real estate (ok, yeah that worked out great, she has shown houses twice in the two years she has been an 'agent' but still she doesn't want to be involved)...and Meri wants out, too. She is only pretending that she will be involved because of the pressure being hoisted on her from Robyn and then Kody. If I were Robyn, I would just rely on Kody's help for this business. That way he can be CEO and in charge of the whole she-bang. They wouldn't need any committees. If the thing falls apart, just blame your CEO who wanted to take charge of the business. Let the other wives go....please release them from this ridiculous business. Do you really want people working with you who do NOT want to be there?
ReplyDeleteShe-bang! Lol!
DeleteEmotional Vomit: I had to comment, I loved your comment on the last post. " I fill like I rilly want clicks to turn into sells. Do we have a dill?" I didn't know if I was the only one to notice the mispronunciations. Things like that drive me crazy. I have (a very, very talented and intelligent woman!) that says "amblience" and "ass-ept". I hate it (but love her! lol).
ReplyDeleteSmall typo in my post: I meant to type "I have a friend" in the last sentence.
ReplyDeleteInstead of saying "something" Christine says "some-think".
ReplyDeleteThe way Robyn pronounces her words grates on my nerves like you wouldn't believe. She also always sounds tired and pressed. It is like everything she says takes a lot of energy.
Janell says, "do you know" before every sentence.
Kody is all about "basically".
Janelle's "you know," and "you know what I mean," drive me nuts. I used to say that all the time, and had to train myself out of it. Meri over pronounces the ends of words. Like, "I didn't same thaT," or "I need to tell you somethinG." It adds a sort of passive-aggressive tone to what she's saying.
DeleteAnon 3:00,
Delete"Janelle's "you know," and "you know what I mean," drive me nuts. "
Right there with you !!
Janelle does tend to use sloppy, lazy cliches when speaking. Sometimes she gives the impression of being one of those dolls that had a string in the back, and when pulled would speak the same phrases. Along with her trademark deadpan "huh, what?" look!!
Janelle *is* passive-aggressive, and she works very hard to come off as being more stable and smarter than the other ones.
However, It doesn't usually work very well.
She is still there, isn't she!?
Robyn and the word "actually" need some time apart to work on themselves.
DeleteI agree the excess words like "actually", "like", "you know", etc are annoying. If they wanted to, they could try to train themselves to reduce these.
DeleteBut I give people a pass on their pronunciations if they're part of their accent. EVERYBODY has an accent.
I think Meri is embarrassed to talk about Robyn's UGLY jewelry because let's face it, it is tacky and cheap. I see Meri making her escape and Kody being on the hook for some $$$ as she is his only legal wife. Interesting that their old home is coming back into the storyline... are they returning? TLC appears to have thrown Kody under the bus. This is a very strange (and boring) start to SW.
ReplyDeletesounds like Meri wants a degree, I am curious if she plans on working after she receives her degree. The scene where she pretends she is scared to tell Kody, her husband, that she is going to college. I thought most married people talked about their futures together, not show him a letter from her last college that has her transcript sealed in SURPRISE! and PLEASE don't be mad! Notice he never once brought up the financial part of her going to college.
ReplyDeleteI thought that was so sad when she said it blew her mind that Kody was going to be supportive of her. I hope that was just BS for the show.
DeleteFinances for her to go to University probably isn't a big issues. Mariahs is mainly coming out of the family fund with a bit from Meri's account and thats it. She has plenty of money to spend on her own University from her own account if the other moms are supporting 1 (or 2) in university and 4-5 kids at home on the same amount.
DeleteWow, I haven't seem anyone really mention this yet, but Janelle was PISSED when Kody said Robyn was CFO. I mean, she was very annoyed.
ReplyDeleteBut these people are coming at the whole Sister Wive's closet backasswards. Companies aren't formed with five random people coming together and working out their roles. People have an idea, then bring new people on with the necessary skills to make the company work. The Browns are like kids playing at business.
Kody shouldn't be making decisions. It was never his idea, he knows nothing about women's fashion and the only reason he's even involved is because it is a 'family' business. He's not qualified to be the boss. And Meri doesn't need to be involved either. She's got her own thing going on with college. Robyn should be the one spearheading it, working with Janelle for financial advice and Christine for product ideas. That would work.
Also, these people really know how to waste time. 20 days is way more than enough time to put a business plan together if you don't spend the first thirteen having emotional meltdowns and discussing whether or not you should cry in the meeting.
Of course, I'm acting like this isn't all made up drama, which it is.
"Of course, I'm acting like this isn't all made up drama, which it is."
DeleteYessssssssss !!! Made--Up- Drama !!!
I don't know... That epic picture of Janelle at the top of this post seems pretty genuine in its look of "wtf! I shaved my legs for that jerk!"
DeleteKody's thoughtless comment really had to sting in the wake of their newfound passion (am I the only one who sees zero chemistry between them??).
Here's the thing. Janelle is pretty easy going about everything, BUT she considers herself the Brown family financial genius. She's the one who enabled them to get the house in Lehi. She probably had a lot to do with the four homes too, not to mention making sure MSWC didn't fall over in the first week.
DeleteJanelle's entire identity is wrapped up in her financial nous. When Kody said Robyn was the one in charge of the finances, he messed with Janelle's perception of herself in a massive way. I imagine that rankled for quite some time. Janelle probably doesn't care if Kody makes love to Robyn every hour of every day, but if he ever insinuates that Robyn's is the financial mastermind (which he very well may do if this business ever actually takes off) I think Janelle will finally face the same jealousy Meri and Christine do.
Janelle should cut off Kody's ...ponytail for that comment.
DeleteIs it me, or is their jewelry ugly? It must be me. I'm 51 and out of their target demographic
ReplyDeleteOh Anon 4:10, it is NOT you!
DeleteThe numbers Kody said at the meeting about sales did not add up with last season and their complaining about so few sales and "minusing out" costs and the profit being only 500 bucks or so. They were poor mouthing low sales to get stupid fans to buy the crap so they could pay for college and "the homes"
ReplyDeleteIt is blowing my mind that these fools made 180,000 in one year! Are they considered actual celebrities in Vegas or something? Who is buying this junk? Kody said when they moved to Vegas that they had to start a business because they were too well known to get "normal" jobs. Am I the delusional one here?
ReplyDeleteNot only do I think it's made up drama, but I would really like to know who/what/where they get their real money. You can say the show all you want, but to qualify for those mortgages they had to show 2 years of income history on their taxes. They didn't have the show 2 full years back. Someone or something is funding them, big time. For a single mom of 3 to get approved, even if it is interest only? I call BS. They also have to have credit to get all those cell phones. I wouldn't be one bit surprised to see them keep those houses even after the show and the TLC $$$$ ends.
ReplyDeleteHow the Browns got financing for their houses was shown on the show. Because of their poor credit they had to go with unconventional mortgage loans where they pay high interest rates and interest only. They are expected to obtain more conventional lending after 3 years. I think that's why they asked for 2.5 million so they can pay off those houses because they know they won't qualify for conventional loans.
DeleteKaren X that line of financing was for the house that was sold and the three lots next to it (the other end of the street). Mona came on the next show and said we can do a lesser down payment because we are not rushing the get the house that is already sold.
DeleteYes I just rewatched that season lol
Thank you Anonymous 4:14. (I'm anonymous 4:23) I didn't think that they showed how they got those mortgages. And even with unconventional mortgage loans with high interest and interest only, they still had to show decent income. Interest only, coupled with taxes and insurance is at least 2000 a month. So they have to be showing serious cash flow. I honestly think the joke is on all of us thinking that they will lose the houses. Although I do think they want the 2.5 M to pay the houses off.
DeletePersonally, I figured that since there was really only a few months at MOST between the first attempt in getting into the other side of the cuddle sac and the deal being struck for the current homes, the Brown's financial status/credit rating/FICO score probably didn't change all that much, and the deal was probably very similar. One doesn't have to have all that much credit to get cell phones these days. They probably are all on one account and more than likely the same account that they had when they lived in Lehi. I know lots of people with piss poor credit sporting iPhone 5s.
DeleteMeri should NOT qualify for a Pell Grant unless they were able to do some really amazing tax write-offs to adjust her and Kody's income (assuming they file jointly) to below roughly $24,000 for a family of two. I work with underprivileged high school students in a college access program and it would absolutely sicken me to see the woman who had such a tantrum over a wet bar take money from a federal account that is intended to help those coming from low-income backgrounds.
ReplyDeleteI have s question, as someone with no background in finance, could they possibly put all of the Tv money into their llc, or whatever Corp they have? If they did that, would it count as individual income, or would it belong to the business, which would make Kody et al income-less, and Meri eligible for FAFSA?
DeleteI hope that question makes sense. :)
If they are putting income into Kody Brown Entertainment,llc or however they have it structered, they are probably taking a salary from that which is taxable, and how the wives got their income to qualify for the homes. Even hard money or private money loans require income. I would imagine the MSWC is a sole proprietor and writes of costs of doing that business. If they are trying to incorporate MSWC and name officers it could explain the struggles of who does what. They would need to be incorporated to attract VC as a 2.5 ,illion dollar loan would probably want personal assets too. The MSWC does not have the value as a business to get that kind of money. I think it is a story line them trying to get VC>
DeleteSo, theoretically they could take a small enough income from their llc to qualify for assistance and/or FAFSA student loans while still being able to access the TLC money?
DeleteThank you for answering, and sorry if this has been brought up before... I don't remember seeing this question specifically, but I could be wrong! Lol!
I think the Brown's uptick in lifestyle which is very public would suggest they are funded well enough that they no longer would qualify for any public benefits. Schools loans i don't know much about.
DeletePretty much anyone can get unsubsidized student loan. Kody probably wouldn't be cool with that, he has come out as pretty against student loans. Maybe because you cannot have them discharged through bankruptcy?
DeleteDing! Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner, Anon 12:58!! Student loans cannot be discharged, thus making them baaaaad news for The Brown Family Financial Plan, more commonly known as bankruptcy.
DeleteSince the show started, there has been fan outcries of "Run, Janelle, "Run, Christine
ReplyDeleteand now "Run, Meri"....apparently no really cares whether Sobbin runs...!!
If any one of the proposed "runners" had half a brain and was so inclined to leave the madness, now would be the optimum time to bolt. It certainly looks as if TLC is setting the show up for the inevitable fall. Could take another season, but it will happen sooner than later. This would be the perfect cycle to start talking to TLC about the viability of a new show...."Leaving SisterWives."
The concept of a spin off has been suggested on the blog for several years, especially when the fan zeal would ramp up for "poor" Janelle and Christine to leave together and have a show.
(Doubtful either one would be interesting enough to pull ratings)
Everyone figured Meri would stay (including me) no matter what. However, this MSWC non-business and all the BS TLC is trying to peddle about it this season is telling. It has polarized these women with thinly veiled and likely chronic resentment and disinterest.
With $$$ always the primo topic and goal, the smart thing would be for one of them to parlay the need for income with owning a desire to leave Cirque De Kody, be a TV Plyg infidel like Christine's aunt, and get out and have a better, saner life.
** Don't mind me, allergy meds can cause me to be a bit delusional **
NONE of them will ever leave !!
At this point, I think either Meri or Robyn is more likely to bolt. Janelle and Christine are probably going to stay...they never got much out of Kody so its normal life to them. They have the most kids who are the most connected to either other.
DeleteI agree that of the wives, Meri and Robyn are the 2 who might leave. It is looking more likely that Meri is going to be the one leaving. She is so unhappy, something is really wrong with her. As for Robyn, she doesn't seem all that thrilled with Kody either. Once the show is over, who knows what will happen?
DeleteI wonder if they are getting paid by Muscle Pharm for all the product placement. I can't be the only one noticing their logo everywhere this episode. Janell had their sunglasses and Kody had a bottle with the MP logo filled with their green koolaide. Trainer Sean is always tweeting about it as well.
ReplyDeleteawhile back Robyn tweeted a picture of Kody at the foot of her bed in a muscle pose with that musclepharm in his hand and said "Kody is such a athletic"
Delete"Kody is such a athletic"
DeleteOMG!!! That is hysterical/sad!! Can we please get a link to that or have it posted on here? I really want to see someone who is such a athletic!!
I took a look at the info online for MSWC that Dakota Justice shared. None of those stats last updated March 2014 support anything Kody said about that business. trustworthyness:very poor Privacy: very poor
ReplyDeleteIt's hosted from Provo Utah and none of the graphs support why site is crashing
The more I think about it, the more the "midas touch" comment irritates me. We have heard the Brown's sob story for YEARS now about how finite their resources are, how they are so desperate for "homes," to put "bread and butter on the table," to pay for college. Kody said he was "cap in hand" hoping for acceptance for their lifestyle oh-so-humble. Meanwhile, 2 million in real estate later, while sporting expensive watches and driving sports cars, he can just laugh on camera about having the midas touch and how awesome they are. The way they talked about their huge, beautiful rental homes was just insulting to all whom are struggling, hell, even to those who aren't. No gratitude for being able to afford to rent such nice homes. it's insulting to hardworking moms that Robyn would cry about not having enough help with a silly online business that only has had 500 orders, or that Christine would quit a job before even starting because she might have to work a weekend. Or that Kody would have the nerve to say he couldn't get a job because he was basically too famous. And even worse, they are never shown doing any kind of work for the community, never shown giving back at all, just begging for money for the Brown Family Charity and then laughing all the way to the bank.
ReplyDeleteCould not have said it better anon 12:08 That comment about the midas touch was just mind blowing..it undermined the past seasons of poor mouthing themselves. bravo great comment
DeleteI believe that Jon Gosselin is now a waiter. Maybe he could help Grody get an interview?
Deletewell, Mayim Blialik went from TV star to neurobiologist back to TV star/neruobiologist. But you know, Kody's too famous.
DeleteI don't understand Robyn. She wants to grow this online business, but she insults monogamists at almost every turn. Contrary to her belief, monogamy is indeed just as hard as polygamy, but in different ways. I'm sick of her talking down to monogamists - maybe this accounts in part for the GIANT discrepancy between site hits and sales?
ReplyDeleteWhile I'm about it, Cody's disdain for women is palpable at times, generally when he is talking about women outside their little world. He and Robyn are just different sides of the same coin when it comes to their disdain for the general population, and they believe we're too stupid to pick up on it.
Janelle, good for you for finally standing up for yourself in that therapy session! You are truly growing as a person, and it is noted...keep it up!
I also have been annoyed at these monogamists digs. For people who just want to be accepted for who they are, they are quite dismissive of others, and full of themselves. I'm not sure if the digs are meant to be cutesy or funny but I find them cringe worthy. Just stop already.
DeleteI sincerely hope that no one except polygamists will buy a freaking thing from their website. That should give them about 5 sales a month.
DeleteThey constantly show their contempt for monogamists, but they sure do want our money!
Do polygamists even wear jewelry?
DeleteAnon 12:57
DeleteI'm going to have to disagree with you there, my experience is monogamy has been incredibly easy to what we see on a 'good' day with the Brown's.
I don't cry everyday, I don't have cold sores from hormonal kiss sharing, I don't have to save up grocery money to see an ailing parent, and I don't have to deal with 3 other women who hate me but bang my husband.
I have friends and family who help me when I need it (sadly no sisterwives jumping all over themselves to provide assistance like Sobbin has), and a husband who thinks I'm the most amazing woman in the world.
I don't see why she compares polygamy and monogamy, because there's no competition what's so ever.
All great points, folks. LOL, LePetite! True, that.
DeleteLPT - Well said! Plus, they wanted to be a part of that "it's sooooo haaaaarrrrd" lifestyle, so my attitude is that they can save their tears, they got what they wanted. Her hard life hasn't even begun yet... You know that Kody will soon contrive another divine calling for a younger, hotter uterus.
DeleteI'm not monogamous at this time since I date several different guys at once, but if I was going to get married again it sure as heck wouldn't be a polygamous one. Those women are miserable!!!
DeleteIs it true?!?!
ReplyDeleteHave I finally found all of you?
For months I have been lurking around SWB looking for any clues, and “googling” Sister Wives for any new links. For some reason, today, CJ's Living Room popped up! This is great!
I actually have a lot of catching up to do. Last week’s episode of SW was the first one I've watched since last fall/summer 2013. I got so fed up with them I couldn’t bring myself to watch through the winter season.
I did catch a few episodes of My Five Wives (which *might be worse than SW, and Brady *might be an even bigger douche than Kody…it’s a tight race, though). Anyway, I have to say I noticed the editing was different on last week’s SW epsiode. It felt edgier and the characters...oops, the Browns seemed to be coached to be less guarded and more "in your face" with each other...like Janelle!!! And Kody's "emotional vomit" aka temper tantrum in the therapists office. It reminded me of My Five Wives a little bit which definitely exposed more plyg cracks. I think the show definitely has a different tone from the last time I watched.
Welcome to My Living Room, Sister Blister Wife!!!
DeleteEnjoy your visit!!!
meri tweeted a picture of a watch a customer bought and sent the tweet to them. Customer said it was chunky but still loved it! that is why measurements would help customers before they buy. Delusional fans i guess. They must have been lucky enough to be able to log on. I for one would never give those people my credit card info.
ReplyDeleteTotally ** off topic ** and I apologize in advance !!
ReplyDeleteDid anyone see the finale episode of "The Little Couple" ..????
If one is longing to see an episode of a "Reality Show" that is actually devoid of the usual reality show BS, the director driven, canned scenes, the phoney acting by the "stars"...I do encourage to check this one out.
Short synopsis:
Jen, the wife, is a pediatrician in the Nic Unit at Houston Children's Hospital and is a 3 foot 2 inch dwarf. She is married to a Bill, a business owner, who is also a dwarf . They are recent adopting parents to two orphaned dwarf children, One from China, one from India and both parents had to travel to those countries to get the children. She was Dx'ed with cancer this past year just as they were going through the process of adopting the second child. She chose to let her grim chemo treatment be filmed to encourage and inspire other cancer patients.
Long story short......their season finale show was a re-commitment ceremony of their marriage.
I know....sounds like the usual TLC pumped up BS, ratings-driven celebrations/storyline as seen with the Gosselins, Duggers, Rolloffs, Kodyworld and likely at some future point, even the Brady Bunch.
BUT......the Little Couple's event was inspiring and so very "real"....minus any of the tacky, K-mart vibe that all the others have. No doubt TLC funded it, but what was filmed was about two people who were still able to glimpse loving and living life after surviving what could have been a heart-breaking tragedy.
It's nice to know that this show is really about "real" people !!!
The Browns should watch it for an ethic wake-up call.
Hey Amused, watching the Little Couple really is an uplifting experience. They are good people.
DeleteCake, cake, cake!!!!
DeleteThe Little Couple is one of my absolute favorites! Bill and Jen faced sooooo much adversity (real adversity, not made up crap like the Klowns) and yet they are positive and grateful and work their butts off! They don't want pity--the Klowns could take a lesson.
Mr. Snark even teared up a little during the vow renewal! Love us some Bill, Jen, Will and Zoey!
Yes, I watched the episode and was so impressed. 2 words came to mind - genuine and authentic. Jen and Bill are a couple in love with each other, they're excited about their beautiful newly adopted son and daughter and they appreciate the life they've worked so hard for.
DeleteI watched most of the LC too! I love that family and I really love watching Bill with the kids, coloring Easter eggs. he is so good with them! Well Jen is too, but you can tell he couldn't wait to get home to see his kids and spend time with them!
Deleteok, you guys are officially to blame for my not getting anything done. so i went and watched the little couple vow renewal. i don't watch their show, but good lord are they marvellous. the kids are so cute and these two love each other so much. i just love jen. she has to be the world's tiniest doctor. i don't think i've ever seen a person this little. even by dwarf standards, she is small. and yet, there is nothing little about her except her stature. btw, i don't think she needs the wig. the hair is already growing back and i actually think the pixie cut suits her. now, if i end up watching their whole show, i'm blaming you lot. seriously, if i wasn't so not busy just now, i might have to block this site on my computer. yes, my lack of personal responsibility is brownian in its dimensions.
DeleteThis is the most "real" reality show on TV IMHO. Love them all!!!
DeleteWatching the new episode.
ReplyDeleteWait wait wait.
Christine says "venture capitalists they can be a little bit aggressive".... So THIS she knows. Attributes of venture capitalists she knows. But yet regarding topics in the scope of polygamy which she has lived her whole life... "I didn't know men could be such bastards."
Heaven help me.
She probably learned all she knows about VC's from the show Shark Tank.
Deletewhich would be a show she would watch, seeing how afraid she is of sharks.
I visited Mysisterscloset today to check my account..and ask a few nosey questions, about what some of the women that worked there, thought about a polygamist family using such a similar name for an online business and in a television show. Some thought it was a clever ploy to drive more business to their site. I said they are not that smart, they just ripped off the name and inserted "wife".Lot's of opinions about it, but, yes they do know about it.
ReplyDeleteSomeone mentioned family discounts for Meri at UNLV because Logan and Aspyn go there.
ReplyDeleteHowever.... She's not their mother.
And if Kody is not on their birth certificates as their father, would she even be considered there stepmother (for reasons of 'family' discount)?
Good point. Of course I'm sure she'll mention the TV show.
DeleteWas I the only one creeped out by Robyn's talking head about Meri going to college? To me she was pretty much admitting that if Meri goes to college she might learn more and experience more and see that this life they are living is a sham and want out.
ReplyDeleteThere was no "she'll be able to bring in new skills to help the family" or "she will be such a great role model for the kids about getting their education" etc.
Wow, that's a ringing endorsement for your lifestyle. Don't let your sister wives get too intelligent or they might run off!
I agree. However, I get irritated that they say "lifestyle". It's a tenet of faith within their cult.
DeleteA cult that discourages their believers to explore other ideas outside of their own. Robyn said in one of the couch interviews years past that their faith discourages proselytizing. I found that fascinating. If you held the keys to the highest celestial kingdom and eternal life (they say is the "principle"), why would you not share this information to everyone? That doesn't seem very loving... and I thought love was supposed to be "multiplied."
What happened to their green goo multilevel marketing business?
ReplyDeleteI was wondering the same thing...no bottles of green water to be seen in the shows so far! Also so mention of the business people Robyn introduced us to last year that were helping with the joolery biz.
DeleteAnon 3:43 that was my thought, too. As if allowing her to interact with others would open her eyes. Robyn has to be worried. Meri has admitted that she isn't close to the others. Her closest friends are mainstream lds, people who would not endorse the lifestyle. Robyn is right, for the first time in her life, if Meri leaves mswc, she may not come back. #runmerirun
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