Sunday, November 27, 2016

SISTER WIVES Season Premiere! LIVE TWEET PARTY! for November 27th, 2016

 Let's start the Live Tweet Party early!!
My Living Room is now open!  
Let's discuss!

Will somebody wake up Christine, please? #WakeyWakeyEggsAndBakey

Robyn:  How did this banana get on my finger? #KodyNeedsANewSecondBanana





It's Sister Wives  L I V E  T W E E T  P A R T Y  T I M E   !!!


Prepare yourself for MORE Mr. Robyn Brown  BLOVIATING!!

All the ladies love me! #KodyIsNotBananaWorthy



While the current Mrs. Kody Brown decides whether to live tweet with the rest of her sister wives!

Isn't it enough I have to share my Kody with those other three women?   #BeAfraidBeVeryAfraid

GET SET FOR MORE SISTER WIVES FUN AND GAMES!!!
Let's see. Do I want to be a fry cook or a fashion consultant when I grow up? #DecisionsDecisions

Gird your loins  for an "epic" premiere!
Sister Wives is on the snark menu in My Living Room!!!

DON'T FORGET TO WEAR YOUR ICONIC MSWC JEWELRY AND YOUR BEST HOLIDAY LEGGINGS!
#WhoNeedsCatfishWhenYouGotKody

LET THE SNARKING BEGIN!!!

















190 comments:

  1. Don't know whether to hang head in shame for again considering wasting precious time on viewing these Kodyworld phonies and finally deciding to just give it a miss...or happily get into enjoying the camaraderie of Cynical Jinx's Living Room.

    Easy decision......Let the snarking begin.....!!

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    1. Thank you for all you do. You have made your living room such a fun and thought provoking place.

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  2. I see Jangle is already sending warnings that haters will be blocked and "careful #karmaisabi***". They seem a bit cranky this season already!

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    1. Great move, Jangle.....just makes snarking all the more enticing.
      Seriously, what do they expect?

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    2. Is there anyone left to even block?? they have been doing that for years

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    3. Are they so stupid that they can't figure out people can have multiple twitter and facebook accounts. Oh, if I was a troll, I would enjoy picking on Jangle just for the hell of it, lol.

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  3. Does anyone know if new episodes will be on Hulu?

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    1. I watched it for free on the TLC app for ipad

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  4. Kody has his intense rodent stare going full tilt so far.

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  5. I was at the Riverside National Cemetery by March Airforce base this past few days to inter my mother with my dad who has been there several years. They were both World War II veterans. And i thought...i remember cynical saying she grew up around here..we will have long lasting memories of this blog long past when the Brown's are gone from the TV. Thank you CJ

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    1. Your Welcome, Milo. My brother is also interred there. To the north, directly across Van Buren Blvd, the offbase housing (called Arnold Heights) was located. The housing has been long torn down, and I think it's an industrial park now. At least March is still there!I still remember during the mid-60's watching the B-52s take off...awesome sight and very noisy!

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  6. It's creepy how distressed they are that they don't have control over Mykelti's life.

    And he asks why they want to marry so soon, they just met each other. Didn't he and his million wives have very short engagements??

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    1. Exactly what I was thinking! And didn't Janelle and Christine basically "pick" the Kodester without him having much of a say? Can you say hypocrite?

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    2. Right?! Didn't him and Christine specifically barely have a courtship? It doesn't matter if they think she's making a bad decision, when it comes down to it she's an adult who can do it without them. That said, I think they are both too immature to get married, but it could turn out well. What do I know?

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  7. Kody wants to know if Tony will step in front of a truck for Mykelti. This is the same guy that wouldn't step in front of a wasp for his daughter.

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    1. I remember that! And Truley was a lot more brave about it too.

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    2. He also said he wouldn't go over a burning bridge for Meri, haha!

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    3. Bahaha, when was that? I don't remember him sacrificing Truely to the wasps.

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    4. It was a few seasons ago. The Brown clan visited another plyg family somewhere out in the country. Kody lifted Truely up into the cab of a big truck the plyg husband had. Then a bunch of wasps started coming out from inside the cab. Kody jumped back about 15 feet, leaving his tiny daughter to be retrieved from the truck by her brother. At least 2 of the wives made a ridiculous scene of checking Kody over for wasp bites and tending to him. Meanwhile little Truely stood quietly off to the side by herself watching this. It was classic Lord Kodouche in action.

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  8. Uhhh, Could this show be THIS annoying and ridiculous and phony-staged only 20 minutes into the *1st epp* of the whole season !!!!????
    Geez....so staged, so silly stupid.

    Kody, who married his four babes after a few nachos and stolen kisses and has proven he can divorce them at will, is now the concerned, proper patriarch. What a joke!!

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  9. MrSpock wonders how Tony's parents feel about this whole thing.

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  10. Kody saying he wants for Mykelti "a honeymoon experience that's divine," literally made me yell "yuck, yuck, yuck!" at the TV. My four year old is cracking up. They hate Tony so much. It's difficult to watch.

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  11. Uh oh Tony. "You can get a loan to get married". Oh Tony you are making the snark biz too easy.

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    1. Yeah, he's getting a lot of flack on twitter for that comment. I mean, even as a joke it was a pretty naive and rude thing to say.

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  12. Okay, Tony just said in the preview Cody could get a loan against his house to pay for the wedding. Now we're dealing with two fools. Any young man asks me to go into such debt for an over-the-top wedding and I'll tell him to pound sand.

    There are ways around that...yeah, you're in Vegas.

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    1. Tony is acting like such a punk. Is he marrying for $$$ or what? It's also funny that they're all acting like they didn't just rush into marriage after barely knowing each other, at early, early ages.

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  13. You can't take a loan against a house with an interest-only loan...that requires equity.

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    1. wasn't Tony referred to as a banker in the magazine that announced their engagement???

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  14. OMG !!!!!!!!! Way TOO much Kody-speak!!
    Kody, shut up !~

    This whole thing is beyond scripted and rehearsed !!! Over the top BS!!

    Mykelti's guy is a terrible actor..almost feel sorry for him except
    sure that his TLC check will compensate him despite his bumbling speaking and acting.

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  15. Wait. Did that boy just suggest Kody mortgage his house or get a loan to provide him a wedding???? Bwahahahaha!

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  16. Also-Kody wanted the condition that Tony allow his children to be plygs if they want, because he "never wants to be separated from those children." He is referring to his celestial life. It has something to do with his progeny all being on his planet one day with him at the top.

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  17. Not watching. Reading all these comments about Tony is intriguing. Very odd that he expects people to go into debt for his wedding. Seems very impulsive and immature... like someone else we all love to snark on. Can we say Makelti is marrying a man that resembles her father?

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    1. An accurate observation.

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    2. Sounds like Tony will be great for ratings then!

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  18. Completely disagree with Dawn's point actual point in the context of Mykelti getting married sooner. But I LOVED seeing someone utter the phrase, "It's not about you." to Kody's face. Someone needs to make a GIF of that moment.

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    1. My husband and I both were cracking up when Dawn said that to Kody. We felt it was about time somebody put Kody in his place!

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  19. And that marks the first time EVER that someone told Kody it wasn't about him! Yes!! (Of course he gives his pat answer that it's "about the family", which in Kody-speak means "me".)

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  20. Kody: "Getting married at that age is the dumbest thing they can do." (Repeat several times.)
    Ages of Kody and Meri when they got married- same exact ages as Mykelti and Tony.
    Dooffus.

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    1. I would think that he was commenting on the poor state of his and Meri's wedding -- "we got married at that age and just look how we turned out (thumbs down)" -- but I'm sure Kody's not that smart. As usual, he just didn't think things through.

      Why am I watching this. I vowed not to watch! Haha!

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  21. Does he seriously think they haven't had sex already?

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  22. Well, looks like season 8 may as well be called the Kody Show once and for all. His pontificating, bloviating, over-explaining is exhausting.

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  23. Why the big rush to have a wedding? I dunno, why the big rush to marry 4 wives and have 23+ children? The answer lies there.

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  24. I'm "watching" vicariously thru y'alls comments. But I just noticed Christine tweeted a picture of her homemade turkey soup. I swear it looks like sauteed albino earthworms...

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    1. I guess those are the homemade noodles she's made. Gotta give her props for making the noodles rather than buying them.

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    2. Giggling! It took me a minute to decipher what I was looking at in that photo as well. I'll bet the soup is yummy! It does not have mock noodles.

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  25. How riveting. Coming up, a teaser segment about "Will we get sloshed at Maddie's reception or not". Ohh the drama.

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  26. Madison and Caleb announced they're having alcohol at their wedding, but don't want anyone to get tipsy. (A true buzz kill) Cody says his family is like Puritans...um.....no.

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  27. I can't wait for your recap CJ on this episode. I just looked at Robyn's Twitter and I was shocked at the TLC promo picture this year!
    https://mobile.twitter.com/LuvgvsUwngs/status/781258001365598208/photo/1

    What were they thinking?

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    1. I know. That's like a family pic I would be capable of taking. And then my daughter would make me delete it.

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    2. Are they trying to make us think (judging by the picture of Christine sleeping on Kody's shoulder)that the two of them now have a loving relationship? Did anyone besides me notice what looked like Kody quickly jerking his leg away when Christine put her hand next to it? I don't record so I couldn't double check but it looked that way to me.(this was in the library scene, after "the talk".

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  28. Really Tony, get a loan against your finance parents house so you can have a dream wedding? Do what we did 40 years ago. Simple wedding and reception at home. Guess it took cause here we are, still together. Two very immature and intitaled teenagers! Be adults and do it on your own. Nobody owes you a thing!

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  29. Kody is skeeved at the thought of his daughter having a garter taken off by the groom.
    But KodyIdiot, you never minded that daughter or any other child knowing that you bed hop and do the deed with four different women.

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    1. ^THIS! SO True, Amused! He is such a hypocrite! Disgusting..

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    2. Obviously sexual perversion is the root of polygamy. Kruddy has always been inappropriately over-interested in his daughter's sexual activities. We don't hear crap about Logan and his girlfriend, do we?

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  30. I'm bailing on this and will read the comments later. I've witnessed the Sister Wives sampling cake about 5 too many times: Robyn's fake wedding, the family commitment ceremony with the weird tree cake, several birthdays, and now Mykelti's wedding. It's uninteresting and actually sad how they're so excited to sample cake...when they've clearly had too much. Especially when it's about a wedding they aired LAST SEASON.

    I'm going to go watch Shameless. At least it has an honest name.

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    1. I was thinking the same thing...far too many cake-tasting scenes thru the years. Boring...!!!

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  31. It's nice to see Meri, Christine, and Janelle so hands on with Maddie's wedding. They actually look happy. I wonder if Robyn chose not to be apart of the planning because she wouldn't be able to be the center of attention. It's a nice change not to see the crying chin or hear her voice this episode.

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  32. Noooo...say it isn't so !!
    DO we really have to see Nancy, Plyg therapist to the stars, again !!

    Damn, listening to Kody, sessions with Nancy must be on a revolving retainer in Kodyworld. BUT now, after all the catfish/divorce crap, Kody now wonders if he and Meri should have private co-sessions with good ol Nancy.
    Gee, KodyIdiot..... ya think??!!

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  33. Really Tony, get a loan against your finance parents house so you can have a dream wedding? Do what we did 40 years ago. Simple wedding and reception at home. Guess it took cause here we are, still together. Two very immature and intitaled teenagers! Be adults and do it on your own. Nobody owes you a thing!

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  34. Wow , Tony is as creepy as Kody. But the disrespect for The Browns is amazing. Future Inlaws should take out an Equity loan for his wedding. Sounds just like the scheming the Browns have done their whole lives. He will fit in just fine. How does it feel to have this kid tapping you like an ATM?
    Mykelti did look down and ashamed after her fiancé disrespected her family. This kid is a real piece. And I can't get over the creepy whiskers Tony has, like a catfish, must be to keep with Meri's storyline.

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    1. Thank you! Glad I'm not the only one. Tony is creepy in every way, and I was straining to understand him. Mykelti could do so much better, and she had so many dreams. It's a shame.

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  35. Can someone please inform Kody's historically ignorant self that Puritans drank alcohol?

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  36. Well, TLC has learned nothing.
    Kody Brown and his harem have learned nothing.
    Nothing has changed. Same format, same talking heads, same couch chats that go nowhere.

    If this episode was to premier the rest of the season, we all will need to take turns staying awake to watch.
    CJ, hope you have strong coffee?

    It was slow-moving with dragged out dialogue and scenes with lame, obvious scripting. Just plain BORING !!

    There will be plenty to snark though. The ladies of Kodyworld are not looking their best. However, did see on the trailer that Jangle went for an ombre shaded dress for the wedding. Good choice.

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    1. Who is Jangle and why are they called that?

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    2. Last year one of the media gossip mags had a SW story that had a typo which called Janelle..."Jangle!"
      Our Hostess Cynical Jinx suggested it would now be Janelle's alternative name here on her blog.

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  37. So nice seeing Robyn not be the center of attention. Wonder if we will see the pregnancy announcement this season too.

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  38. I know Meri has made some really poor choices and she's a grown-up and needs to be accountable. But gosh, how sad and lonely she still must be feeling. Something no wife has ever hoped for as the end goal.....my husband is polite, calm and tolerates being around me.

    Sad.

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  39. I have not seen it but have a few questions. Who paid for Maddie's wedding was that mentioned. Tradition in my country is bride's family pays a huge chunk.Is that not the U.S. custom? This may be one of the pitfalls of having kids you can not afford. They need not have a lavish wedding ,but get her a nice dress you cheap bastard.How often in a polyg family do you get a day just about you?Robyn got a beautiful wedding.Doesn't Kody want that for his daughters?And that was Robyn's second go round. Christine got a dress made by her Mom but not her Mom at her wedding . Janelle got two weddings. The first one to meri's brother.Maybe we could let number three wife's number two daughter have a nice day to remember.As to what Antonio's family thinks ,he was raised Catholic he said in Us magazine. I am pretty sure she is not their dream daughterinlaw either.

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    1. Different families and different regions of the US have different customs. I've been married twice and my respective fiances paid for both weddings with no help from our families; we were both "established couples" with decent-paying jobs and we both come from families with several children, so we didn't want to embarrass our parents by asking for financial help we knew they could not provide. I know that in other families, parents go into serious debt to throw gala weddings for their children.

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    2. LDS weddings are not expensive. Janelle was sealed and then most the family had lunch and then there was an open house type gathering at one of the homes. Even Robyn's wedding wasn't aired it was the reception that aired. Who pays depends on a number of factors. Are the parents inviting most the guest cause they are owed gift money having been to so many weddings? Is the couple already out of the house? Who wants to make the decisions on the event?

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  40. Caleb says in his clip he can't wait to spend eternity with Maddy forever. Eternity means forever buddy.

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  41. In Tony's defense, he is a personal banker 1 (at Wells Fargo I think?), anyway, his main job 8 hours a day is processing home equity loans... so, I don't think he was serious in Kody taking out a loan, as much as he was saying that kind of thing was possible... ALSO, his next sentence after the loan was to say that Mykelti's wants or wishes were only acceptable if they were convenient for Kody (which is true!)

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    1. Oh my goodness Tony is employed. How refreshing!

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  42. So Antonio was there three or four times before Mykelti brought up marriage and Christine said that she barely spoke to him.She should have paid attention when Antonio showed up on the scene before there was an attachment.

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    1. You're right. If your daughter brings a young man to the house, it's incumbent on the parents to get to know the guy, to interrogate him, to use that time to try to guide the daughter away from the relationship if they think the guy isn't appropriate for her, not to wait until it's gone so far as an engagement to finally take notice. But, that's the Browns for you, heads in the sand, waiting for someone else to take charge until it's basically too late to do anything but panic.

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  43. Scripted folks! The Equity line was akin to being on the Jerry Springer show. They just wanted maximum *drama* with that line and here everyone is jumping on the bandwagon.

    Kodouch probably wrote it himself. "These kids are going to bankrupt me me me"





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  44. When Kody said"she is escaping something here" I thought Gee , you think so?Does Tony have a hearing problem? Is that why his speech is garbled?

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    1. Yes Tony's speech problem is indicative of hearing loss. I would say Tony has done a remarkable job over coming a hearing deficiency....it takes years of work with a speech pathologist to conquer such issues (it is pretty brave of him to go on camera, which might account for some of the awkwardness)

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    2. Very true, Hagars harem, l am hearing impaired as well as 4 of my 6 children. My daughter was diagnosed in preschool and had to have itinerant teachers through the high school years. It takes years of work to overcome some lazy speech patterns. But with my son, he falls back into loud and lazy speech especially when he is angry or excited. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

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  45. "Getting married in life is more important than the faith you choose"Uh what did you say Kody ? You chose four women because of your faith or did you choose your faith so you could have four women.Very revealing.

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  46. So, I'm "watching" this crapfest (i.e. it's on in the background while I'm doing other things) and we are just past the "All the wives and Krody must discuss the engagement" scene.

    Is it just me or was this just completely insulting? Poor Mykelti, they are all just so dismissive of her and so worried about how all this will effect Madison. :P

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    1. I agree!! It's completely night & day from how the parents reacted toward Maddie's announcement. Kody is acting like he courted & was engaged a long time before he got hitched.

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    2. Again, he, Tony is not a cousin so he is not welcomed with open arms.

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  47. While they were worried and wondering out loud if Mykelti was trying to upstage Madison, I was wondering if such conversations ever took place about Robyn's girls and if Aurora would try anything to upstage them.

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  48. In some families, the brides parents pay. If the bride and groom are established, they often pay for their own. We paid for our own as we were in our 30s. We paid for our sons college education, we aren't going to pay for their weddings beyond the rehearsal dinner and a very nice gift( or cash).

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    1. Yes, that's the "tradition" in the US. The bride's family traditionally pays for the wedding, including the dress, flowers, venue, reception, etc and the groom's side pays for the rehearsal dinner. If the bride and groom are established (have been living on their own for awhile) the "tradition" is that they pay for their own wedding.

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    2. I would much rather give my kids a chunk of change to put down on some real estate than pay for some big wedding.

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  49. Wow! So Kody is no longer staying at Meri's house??? Since Meri "uninvited" Kody to stay at her house, Meri just needs to move on already.
    Meri says she was in a dark place in her life when she asked Kody to not come around. I'm guessing this was during the quickie divorce/marriage saga....but she's blaming it on CF

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    1. Exactly CB, nailed it!!!
      Shocker that they actually disclosed this to us, the viewer. No more Meri day in the rotation. They are pulling out all the stops to keep this CF storyline going and going and going.... Just like "sir-get" -gate! Will she or won't she rent a uterus ??? They beat these boring dramas to death. Perfect for a season premier... Last seasons stories.

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    2. The real timeline for this would be interesting to know. Did Meri "uninvite" Kody to stay at her house before the big discussion about Meri wanting to be a part of Kody and Robyn's wedding or did it happen after? What exactly prompted it (other than being sick of Kody, of course), was it Meri's infatuation with her CF? One thing is pretty easy to infer in all of this which is Meri must have done a bunch of comparing Kody and the CF and it's easy to understand how the idea that almost any man would best Kody in any comparison.

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    3. Meri from the beginning wouldn't admit that she would've left to be with CF if CF had been the millionaire man she believed him to be. Instead she kept saying she said the I love yous and all that jazz as a friend and had no intention of "leaving" the family. That's just not true, you can tell by the voice mails. When the CF story came to light she negated all of her personal responsibility and blamed it solely on the woman who CF her. Meri could easily STILL admit she would've left had CF been a real guy and I think people would respect her for that, but people don't respect being lied to when clearly she would have left. Just my opinion.

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  50. Meri seems to be calling Kody out on a lot of stuff. Kody seems confused & not able to remember. This is sad. I feel that Meri is using TLC camera's to be able to even talk to Kody about these things. Unfortunately it looks like Kody has been avoiding her bc he doesn't want to deal with her anymore. When she needs him to do something around the house, but he responds by telling her that it's too much for him & for her to figure it out herself. Or says I'll call later to talk about it but doesn't even follow through is just rude & callous. I wish Meri would leave! She obviously wants a monogamous marriage & she's not even canoodling with Kody anymore. The lover days are long gone!!!

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    1. Kody is really being a POS, master manipulator about this. He's trying to gaslight Meri by using a monotone voice and saying 'gosh, Meri, I really don't remember saying that' or shrugging his shoulders and trying to act innocent.
      And, then there's Meri who can't string together three words to express a genuine emotion. It's too bad they waited for the cameras to try to talk about their problems. On top of everything they're going to the therapist to the plygs, Nancy. And their session will probably be filmed, too. SMH

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    2. Ah you got that too. I could see him turn in a split second to that patronizing voice.Not only is he trying to maintain the façade for the camera man,you are right it is very passive aggressive way to turn up her volume.He asks her how she feels then calls her aggressive.She did not seem to really take the bait.This is not her first time at the rodeo.We have heard on some past episode their disagreements can get loud.This controlled movement by Kody says I do not feel passion enough about you to get riled up about you leaving ,to me.This reminds me of an interview I saw with Doris Hanson where the woman said one strategy was to treat the woman so badly with neglect or abuse that she left. It was then her choice to go and the guy moves on with the other wives he still wants ,guilt free.I bet a hole to a donut that Kody was not putting out sexually either when she strayed.It must be tiring to constantly stroke his ego and defer to him so he feels man enough to perform.

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    3. Yes! The calm, measured voice that Kody was using made me look up immediately... just in time to see his oh-so-puzzled expression. GAG. He was not "confused" about anything, and this behavior seems abusive, imo. He knows exactly what happened and why -- because he probably did whatever he could to cause it. Withhold sex, hint about divorce, etc, in order to get what he wanted.

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    4. I agree Andrea, the interesting thing is Meri stopped short saying what was the issue. Kody has no problem laying out others perceived dirty linen . I still get irked about the talking to he gave Christine not once but twice.Sanctimonius Jerk

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    5. I don't watch the show but it seems to me that the only wife who has the "lover boy" relationship with Kody is the legal wife. When Meri was all legal, she loved him to pieces and praised him and called him lover but after the divorce, not so much. Now Robyn, who in times past seemed to snark him with the other non legal wives, is all about his good points.

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    6. Ive had the same impression of Kody for quite some time now. He is very calculated and manipulative in his communication. Especially with Meri now days. I am surprised they flat out admitted that he doesn't "visit" anymore. It apparently started during the peak of the catfish days. I can't help but wonder if he is vengeful of her telling him to get out. Now he wants nothing to do with her because he realizes he is not the center of her world anymore. That's the worst thing in the world for narcasistic Kody. God forbid she doesn't bow down to him anymore. His best weapon for getting her back is the emotional abuse we see being played out in this episode. I wonder if he visits her nowadays since that conversation was filmed?

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    7. Add in the fact that it was very obvious during the divorce, that despite the bogus story about having do it to adopt Sobbin's kids "to protect them" from their father *even though they still see him*....Kody and Sobbin were having trouble playing out the script of acting all demure and low key, matter of fact about being THE legal couple. It was clear, they were both really "into it" !!!
      Easy to assume that from that point on Kody was not meandering over to Meri's house for night or afternoon delights or much anything else. Once Sobbin was pregnant again, which was likely the mandate behind her becoming legal, Kody's presence was expected there more than ever.
      That *had* to be a harsh reality for Meri.

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    8. I honestly thought when Meri kept saying..." You know why Kody" that she was going to spill the beans about being approached or forced into the divorce. I mean they laid right on the line that he no longer warmed her bed. I never thought they would confirm that...but that public knowledge had Robchin's finger prints all over it, just like the divorce. I think we all can see that Robchin held her uterus as hostage until she was the legal wife. As soon as she got that license she popped another one out and she looks like she's on her way to another.

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    9. True, true, Lisasuumms !!!!

      Yet still they use all the innuendoes as hooks for the next episode....really nasty, manipulating people.

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    10. I totally got that feeling too. Meri needed the cameras there so he couldn't wiggle out of hard questions. Thats why he was so upset it was filmed. He couldn't control the narrative or talk about what was ok with him or not ok with him to discuss because she had the spot light and ran with it. I know Meri has not been a popular character but when I think of how for seasons they dredged through the graveyard of her fertility and then the downfall of her love with Kody is just makes me feel sick.

      She talks about pushing him away and I know love is not a game and you shouldn't push people away for attention...but it looks like she just needed some reassurance that he loved her enough to fight for her. To say no, I love you and you are my wife and even if you are mad I we promised to love each other and so even if you are mad at me I'm not giving up. And he didn't care enough to do that.

      I grew up LDS I am not anymore but what was told to us growing up about polygamy was that it happened and we don't do it anymore because god only wanted it for a short time. And they always used this "Isn't it better for a guy to have 3 wives and be nice to them than for a guy to have 1 and treat her badly." Which when you are 10...alrite that logic will work on a 10 year old. But I see this and he doesn't treat them all nicely. I definetly see why he didn't want this on camera. Doesn't make him look like super polygamist man who keeps all his households satisfied and cheerful.

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    11. "Isn't it better for a guy to have 3 wives and be nice to them than for a guy to have 1 and treat her badly."

      What a wonderful option. How about the option where he has one wife and treats her fantastically... like my marriage? This reminds me of the time Robyn (I think) said that polygamy is good because instead of cheating the husband takes care of each wife forever. My thought is perhaps they should encourage mean to NOT cheat and be faithful. It is also an insult to men everywhere to assume they all will eventually cheat.

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    12. I think that Meri would like for her relationship with Kody to go back to what it was before she had the emotional affair, and that as much as Kody keeps affirming that he believes there was no affair, his ego took it as a hard blow and he wants nothing more to do with her.
      Like Hall and Oates say he's "lost that lovin' feelin'". He wouldn't cross a burning bridge for her.
      She may not be dead to him, but he will behave in a neutral/robotic way if he has to deal with her. Letting he think he's coming over to fix something and calling to cancel repeatedly is very passive aggressive.
      That said, I get why he's pissed, even though he's outwardly denying it. He doesn't want to look like the bad guy--especially on tv.
      He will remain in this weird neutral stance and let her be the one to end it--which I don't think she will. Her mother loves Kody. The family is so enmeshed. The continual cover-up of the lies about it. It might just eat her up energetically in a bad way. "Dis-ease" starts this way.

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    13. "She may not be dead to him, but he will behave in a neutral/robotic way if he has to deal with her."

      "He will remain in this weird neutral stance and let her be the one to end it--which I don't think she will. "

      Totally Agree, Back in Black !!

      Kody will not vilify Meri on camera, he won't jeopardize the show or the brand.
      And Meri can't and won't move on either. She is the resident martyr....for now. Sick as it is, there always seems to be one wife who is more out of Kody's favor than the others.

      And....Meri needs/wants a roof over her head.

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  51. Tony and Mykelti getting married is a bad idea, but I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Kody squirm over the whole thing. Watching him struggle to manipulate to gain control over the situation was quite interesting. Great insight into how his mind works and how he operates.

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    1. Yes, it was really interesting to watch how he turned everything about Mykelti's wedding around to how it would affect Maddie, Janelle, and of course him.

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    2. Why is it a bad idea. Marriage is temporary in their world. How can anyone steal thunder? They have a dozen kids the same age. They will be doing everything at the same time.

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    3. With all those kids lumped together in age they should start having double weddings. Win-win!

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  52. Some random thoughts....poor Janelle has packed on quite a bit of weight. I can't imagine who will actually pay her for advice on weight loss or advice on anything really? However, since she's set on preaching about losing weight maybe she can start with her hubby, he's looking quite plump these days.

    Christine looks amazing. Seems like she got her happy back, or maybe Kody is back to putting his boots under her bed again now that Meri told him to get lost, Janelle is over it, and Robyn looks so worn out. I also find the body language between Christine and Robyn to interesting, I get the feeling they're better buds then they want to let on. Take note of how they sit while being filmed candidly not in interviews, they're often next to each other. It is ironic that when the first 3 wives were cake tasting with Kody they all seemed happy and to get along, a dynamic that isn't there when Robyn isn't around. I am so confused, which wives really hate Robyn and vice versa?

    Speaking of Robyn, this episode was really nice because she was hardly in it and darn it, I actually liked her tonight when she pointed out Mykelti and Maddie are the same age. She also sassed Kody when she asked if they were getting married just to start getting it on. She had the most realistic reaction to Mykelti's engagement, I can see why it's been so easy for her to out-smart all the other wives. The sparkle has dimmed on her relationship with Kody though, it's been around 7 years for them, are they getting that 7 year itch or did making things legal mean she doesn't care anymore about pleasing him?

    As for Mykelti and Tony, I think he's hilarious. Good job Mykelti, you've aged your dad ten years by picking him. I can't hate on his comments too much if Kody is paying for Maddie's wedding, then he sure as heck should pay the same amount for each subsequent daughter's wedding. Heck, who am I kidding? We all know TLC is footing the bill for both otherwise we'd be hearing Janelle talk repeatedly about "finite resources" and Meri ramble on about "it's only fair that her daughter get as much spent on her wedding as the rest of the other daughters get combined" etc. Nope, instead they just focused on how immature Mykelti is, what poor choices she's made, what a "ditzy girl" she is and how she's trying to steal Maddie's thunder. How nice of them. They'll be lucky if she and Tony visit at all once this show is over. I will say Tony and Mykelti have good chemistry and seem to actually like each other, unlike Kody and his wives.

    As for Maddie alway seeming more mature, it probably helps that she knows how to speak a good line of bull just like her old dad and she doesn't have her mom bashing her and calling her a "ditzy girl" on public t.v. As it is, Mykelti isn't the one who talked a big game of being a lawyer, made a huge point of going away to school to do great things, then started dating a guy 10 years older than her, gave up college and a scholarship to marry the older guy and is now pregnant. At least Mykelti has always been up front about her choices. But I guess according to the Brown parents Mykelti is the one who is confused about who she is, not Maddie. Ugh. Best of luck to both son in laws for marrying into this mess of a family.

    Meri just needs to leave. Kody knows it's over and Meri must be sticking around just for the TLC checks at this point. They're not fooling anyone at this point. As for Mariah, she needs to grow the flip up but I guess I can't blame her for being mad after eing raised in this cult.

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    1. I was pretty shocked at Janelle's weight gain, too! I'd guess she's gained back everything she ever lost and more, maybe 50 pounds?

      So, Meri and Mariah still haven't made up, huh? In the clip from next week they show Mariah saying she told Meri the previous summer that she was being catfished and she wouldn't listen. I guess Mariah is waiting for an apology or acknowledgement from Meri and Meri is doing the same?

      Until Meri admits to what really happened and what she was really thinking and feeling at that time, I don't think Mariah will believe in her honesty or forgive her for what happened. Do I think Meri will ever admit the truth to herself or anyone else, no, and I don't think Meri will ever really find self-acceptance and move on to a healthy relationship, either. I think she's going to bury whatever feelings were behind the relationship she thought she had with Batfish and will live in denial and unhappiness the rest of her life.

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    2. Yes, I'm in the same boat as Janelle. For years whenever I have lost a large amount of weight I've gained it back plus more. This is very common with over eaters. I would say the stress of the wedding and empty nest syndrome starting to set in with half Janelles kids out the door are contributing factors. Not to mention she no longer seems to have employment with a set schedule. It must be especially painful being on TV to see your weight yo-yo constantly historically recorded on tape. It will be interesting to see if they address it this season and we have to see another painful work out session or a hike up a desert mountain, or a humiliating weigh in. Ugh !
      I'm no cheerleader for the official Kody translator, explainer and apologizer known as Jangle, but as a women I can feel her pain.

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    3. Freya, totally agree on all points! I know most people are hating on Tony (for obvious reasons), but I love the guy. I love him because he is so much like Kody, he will make life hell for him if they spend much time together.

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    4. I have a soft spot for the weight loss struggle some of the family members have been on specifically Janelle. It cannot be easy to be overweight and be on a "reality" television show. I'm not perfect, far from it, but watching her struggle because that was a 'story line' and all the mean comments I've read on Twitter makes me sad for her. Some people are even attacking some of the older teens and young adults in the family now for their weight issues. It's not just their family, we know (those of us in America) that obesity is a disease in this country. I can't imagine how hard it is to try to take control of it and have people's comments constantly dragging you down. I agree, she looks like she gained back the weight she lost. I don't know if she's obviously dieting and working out, or even trying anymore...but it's only our business because the show keeps making it our business. I wish Janelle would consider one of the various weight loss surgeries at this point to help, but it doesn't do everything for you. Health wise, I mean. I don't care what people look like, honestly, it's your body.

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  53. Aside from seeing that the playbook for SW is keeping to the usual routine of talking heads and staged clips where Kody verbosely ascends his podium to explain his plygdom/kingdom, some things again stand out..

    1- there must always be a kid or kids who are showcased for their bad/moody/or just un-plg-like behavior. Whether it be girls dating/engagements or brothers fighting or a daughter's embarrassment about her mother's reckless social media behavior.
    My question has always been how do the kids feel about being used as plot points for public consumption and commentary? These "conversations" we see between parents and kids are filmed, no way are they spontaneous.
    Mykelti wants to "talk" to her mother about Tony and what?...she must wait until the camera guy is summoned to the room. Christine then calls Kody and what?...the camera guy is at his post to catch it all?
    Sure, it is the reality show method...got it!! But what about these kids, these adult kids, are they coerced for the sake of the financial well-being of the family? Or are they also now A-okay with putting their personal lives out there for comment...and surely also for $$?

    2- Watching the wives all chime in on Mykelti and Tony is a bit hollow since it has been apparent, and even the wives have admitted in recent seasons, to all basically living as neighbors, not the warm and fuzzy sisterhood originally presented. These group chats of consensus on any topic look to be strictly for the show.

    3- And then there is Kody explaining and then explaining again how tough it is for him to field all the calls/requests from his wives.
    How stressing all that is for him.
    Yep, Kody is stressed out from having to accept calls from wives who summon him to have to travel 20 yards next door.
    Meanwhile he doesn't work, doesn't engage in childcare, doesn't do anything but possibly watch while TLC sets up the day's shoots during the filming season.
    These scenes with Kody are when you feel really stupid for committing any time at all to watching such a blowhard, self-indulgent cretin.

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  54. I've read all the comments and as usual they are insightful, entertaining and painfully honest. Thank you CJ for a wonderful place to go as a treat from my busy day. And thanks to all the wonderful post, I savor everyone.
    I think we are missing the point between Maddie/Caleb announcement of engagement and Mykelti/Tony announcement. Tony is NOT a relative... NOT IN THE FAMILY WREATH.
    I mean poor Tony is not a "brother-cousin or an uncle-nephew" so he is an outsider.
    Don't Kody, Robyn and Christine all have a grandparent in common? CJ, would you mind verifying that with your fabulous knowledge on the bunch of inbreeders. I know that CALEB is only a relative by marriage ... But who goes to a family gathering/reunion and finds their soul mate? Also the FLDS is not exactly an open minded religion, cult, that opens its arms to outsiders, especially if they have names like Antonio. I think there is definitely some discrimination going on here, I mean you can't tell me they would be so shocked and disapproving if Antonio was blonde and light and delightsome. Or whatever that phase is to describe the chosen "fair skinned" mormon. IMHO there is definitely some predjudice affecting the acceptance of Antonio.
    Or maybe if he was one of Robyn's brothers or nephews etc. there would be no need for a long "negotiation" time per Kody.
    As for the Devine honeymoon...eeeeewwwww , I can't get the creepy way Kodouche said that out of my mind. Yuck!

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    1. I'm not sure about the race issue (although no doubt it's there) but I have a feeling Tony being LDS is a big reason in why the Brown adults aren't as accepting of him. Caleb is so much more skeevy to me because he's so much older than Maddie and has family connections to the family. Also, let's be honest, Maddie gave up a lot more by leaving school for Caleb whereas Mykelti isn't really doing much and getting married isn't going to change her goals at all.

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    2. I don't know... Caleb is a fairly vocal Christian, he is the son of a (retired) Pastor who had a full and active congregation. I would think Maddie denouncing the Book of Mormon would be more upsetting to Kody.
      Being a teenage convert to the LDS faith and going on a mission, is no simple feat. I think Kody would have a lot of respect for that..,

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  55. And why all this hysterical angst of "everyone" being sooo busy with wedding preps for Maddie. Seriously, what workload do the other bonus moms have to do except have themselves and their kids on board for the event? Beyond the filmed-for-the show road trip to taste cake/view flowers, what else is there for them to do??

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    1. Yes, yes Amused...all we ever hear is about how busy they are with "businesses" what, where?
      We never see any adult working or even saying they are headed for work.
      Vendors for weddings do everything these days. We recently had a very extravagant wedding and we were treated like kings and queens. (Bride, groom and both sets of parents) we commented constantly how insanely easy it was to go to 5 appointments, make a few calls confirming 30-days out and even received tons of freebies.
      Come on Browns, you have dozens of people in your tribe and you are ALL working so hard on wedding, please give us a break from the constant " our life is chaos cry" drama crap.

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    2. I do not believe this Brown kids can not be LDS carp.Never did.Explain how the pawn shop couple are LDS ,on T.V. and associating with the Brown's.I have seen Aspyn somewhere and she has lost lots of weight I think.Her face looks thinner.Hopefully she does not try to upstage Mykelti ,Logan or Hunter or Garrison or Mariah when she gets married.Isn't Robyn's eldest an Adult soon too?

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    3. They also have a wedding planner, per Madison in the latest People magazine article regarding Sister Wives. The continuing contradictions of this family!

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  56. Amused - That is a very well-written summation and expresses exactly what I have been thinking.

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  57. I actually thought Kody handled Tony well. Sorry, but I'd be freaking out if my daughter brought home a kid like him. He looked so sloppy in his too tight tee shirt, so tight you can see the outline of his huge naval. And he did seem awfully brazen in his attitude with Kody.

    Kody couldn't have had Mykelti marry in August because that wasn't on the filming schedule. Period.

    Mykelti was just as big of a talker as Maddie, saying she was going to be a big fashion designer and leave Las Vegas.

    On the other hand, I think Maddie and Caleb are really in love and will probably make it, Gross Tony, I'm not so sure.

    And another thing, living in Utah for 20 years, I can with certainty tell you, a return missionary truly living his faith would not accept a non Temple wedding. No WAY!!!

    Reminds me when Josh, Brady Williams son joined the LDS Church and they were very public at the time. Something does not add up! Why was Josh allowed to join and not Maddie and Mykelti?

    Jenlle looks like a snowman with that huge girth.

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    1. I've wondered that myself about why Josh Brady was allowed to join the LDS church but Maddie and Mykelti were not. I don't want to say the girls are lying but it strikes me as strange. Maybe the church told them they could join if they weren't on the show anymore because it promotes polygamy and the girls didn't want to give up their easy money?

      To me Mykelti and Maddie are both big talkers but the difference is Maddie actually left college and gave up her scholarship to be with Caleb while Mykelti isn't giving up anything to marry Tony. Mykelti isn't going to school or doing anything really besides working at a pawn shop which I'm sure she'll keep doing until she gets pregnant. It's too bad both these girls feel the need to get married so young though.

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    2. I can see Madison leading Caleb around by the nose but Tony will not be as pliable.Sadly Mykelti has seen Mom defer to Dad and Tony probably will like that part of the culture.Somehere last night it was alluded someone needs to keep erratic Mykelti in line.As if Kody's life has been anything but erratic.

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    3. The Brady kid did a mission. Their publicity is local. He was already a member before filming. He was about to leave for his mission so the baptism already happened. Also his family left their "group". They just aren't separating from each other. The Browns have not vocally separated from their group. They are also suing Utah which is the same as suing the LDS church.

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  58. I was thinking about the fashion designer item when they said Mykelti is not realistic. They were the people encouraging her idea to be a fashion designer with her preschool drawings of dresses.

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  59. I wonder when Logan will propose and if Kody will be happier about it because he will expect HER parents to pay the bill. I wonder if they will try to have that wedding off camera. You know he's next in line.

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    1. I wonder if Kody asked Logan to hold off on sex with his girlfriend or if her purity doesn't matter because she isn't his daughter?

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    2. They are living together and Kody mentioned last season that it's against their beliefs and that they feel weird about it, but its Logan's life.

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    3. Kody is probably proud that Logan is "spreading his seed"!

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    4. I think Kody is a little afraid of Logan. Proud, definitely, but also a little afraid.

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  60. Are you talking about the parents or the kids? HAHA.

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  61. I'm confused about the whole thing... I really wish they would address the whole religion thing. I mentioned in a previous post how the AUB (their church) is in major turmoil over the new prophet, and a little over 1/4 of the faithful have left. I wonder if the Browns have anything to do with the AUB anymore?
    On a different note, the most upsetting thing about the entire episode was just how unfairly everyone is treated. The kids, the wives, everyone...someone is IN favor and someone is OUT...we are happy for one kid and worried about another... it's just messed up. Yes, kids can be radically different in their personalities and in their life ambitions, but you can still treat each child fairly.

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    1. Meri is a cautionary tale to keep the plyglets in line.Not because she never escaped but because of the ongoing torture by Mariah.Then there was Kody and his twisted abuse kicking her when she is down.Perhaps I can not articulate this well.Meri kicked Kody out because he did something wrong.She cried to catfish who backed her up so she told Kody to take a hike.Now Kody says Mariah is mad maybe because Meri split them up.So Kody's bad act which precipitated her kicking him out is not to blame.Her taking a stand on HIS behaviour did.Not a very empowering message to the kids about making decisions for your own well being.I know a lady who was in their aUB group who was shunned for stepping out of line.I would not be surprised if outside of filming this is true for her.I hope Mariah grows in her freedom to realize her Mother never had any and stops being so hostile.

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    2. Mariah has always had that very harsh black and white thinking just like her mom. We all know the world has many shades of gray depending on your belief system. Both Meri and Mariah demand everything to be perfect in order to be happy. The perfect house with wet bar, the perfect private school, the perfect holiday decor, the perfect bedroom with no exposed to early morning sun, ugh , their world is so all or nothing.

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    3. Lisasumms,

      You nailed it !!!
      And you also have a great memory...forgot about Meri demanding a certain lot so that Mariah would have the perfect sun exposure when she awoke !!

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    4. nonsharer, such a good point you've made.
      I agree.

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  62. My impressions of last night's premiere.

    1. Two hours is way too long to watch this family eat cake and talk about their feelings.

    2. For the first time ever, Kody was right. Mykelti is way to immature for marriage, and so is her fiancé. It was super annoying listening to their childish demands for a wedding just two months after her sister. I guess that self-centeredness is genetic.

    3. The Brown's family therapist must be the worst therapist in Las Vegas.

    4. The producers started listening to the viewers and left Robyn out of the storylines.

    5. Mariah is even more immature and self-centered than Mykelti.

    6. I am also wondering about the pawn shop folks. What kind of "business" could they possibly be doing with the Browns? Are they selling "iconic" jewelry in their shop?

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    1. Maybe gun dealings. Kody used to have that gun business that went belly up. He was showing guns at a gun show this past year.

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    2. "The Brown's family therapist must be the worst therapist in Las Vegas."

      True !!
      Or she is woefully over her head with this crew. Either way these "therapy" filmed sessions are and always have been an exercise in futility. Hope the pay is good because it sure isn't helping her credibility as a professional.

      And on that note, if there is any speck of credence in Meri and Kody seeking legitimate help for their "problems", the proof of that would be to get therapy for real, privately...not filmed and staged for ratings!!! A credible therapist would certainly endorse just that, and not go along with this filming nonsense.

      And while we are speaking of Nancy, Plyg therapist extraordinaire, trotting the Meri/Janelle-Jangle cold war back out yet AGAIN is just plain annoying and screams producer desperation for plots and ratings.

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    3. I think the family is throwing Mariah under the bus. They do that with their children (how many times has Mykelti been called worrisome or ditzy, or Gabe evil, or Hunter a monster?). Mariah appears to be on a very different path from her parents, spiritually, politically, and idiologically. It feels like they are scapegoating her for sympathy.

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    4. "1. Two hours is way too long to watch this family eat cake and talk about their feelings."

      Especially when it's obvious that they spend most of their time eating their feelings and talking about cake! lol

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    5. Lobbies lover I agree completely. I was a victim of that in my own family. What a shame. I feel for them.

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    6. "It feels like they are scapegoating her for sympathy. "

      Or for ratings.. which has proven to always be the adult Browns' bottom line.

      The parents have thrown various kids under the proverbial bus through the years. Not exactly what any kid would expect or want their parents to do for $$ and in front of the world.

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    7. True true Amused, they will throw anyone under the bus to keep this farce rolling. The kids have been show cased for their achievements but the negative light they shine on who ever is their focus like poor homesick kids, normal teenage behavior, even a young girl that may not get along with an adult as they percieve she should is just down right abuse. For 5 adults ganging up on a child with normal immature behavior speaks to their maturity level, not the kids.

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  63. Oh Maddie, confusing bohemian style with historical region.

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    1. yes..and having a bohemian style should be organic. Striving for and planning bohemian seems like a contradiction. Poseur.

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    2. Was glad to hear there may be some Genes from outside Utah.Same as Mykelti picking a Hispanic?This is very hopeful alone.

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    3. There are Hispanics in the polygamous Mormon community. I remember reading on http://politicsrusprinciple.tumblr.com/ that there is a polygamous group down in Mexico that has mixed with Hispanics. And there is a polygamous group in Canada as well. While the Fundamental Mormons is made up of mostly White people, other groups are fine to marry into that their cult with the exception of Black people. Now, I would find it interesting if one of the Brown children did go ahead and marry someone black. I would love to see the look on Kody and his wives faces since the religion they follow, AUB, is totally against black people.

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  64. So, here I am..still watching.{{sigh}} My DH said..Oh no,not this shit again. DD said, Are they still talking about that catfish thing?
    And that says what most of us are feeling.
    Two points:
    Kody told Meri that "He knows what he wants" but he won't say until they are with their therapist(loosely using that title). Wow..I guess we know what he wants. Either for her to grovel and beg..or he wants to unseal from her.
    Second point: Maddie and Caleb seem truly in love and ready for this adult step(although she is young..she is more mature)...Mykelti and Tony are just spitballing. She is a flake.
    Real life story: My nieces(DH side)..two sisters got married 4 months apart. Older one had a big wedding planned for over 2 years..August. Younger one.. got pregnant, threw a wedding together in a couple of months and was married in April. Older sis was not a happy camper. Shit happens.

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  65. Yes, the parents' responses to Maddie's and Mykelti's news were very different. The adults see Maddie as level-headed, while Mykelti is viewed as ditzy and flighty. Caleb is a collateral relative the Browns have known for years; Tony is a virtual stranger to the family. In my mind, neither girl is ready for marriage. Nineteen is just too young. However, it's perfectly natural for the girls to "fall in love" with the first man who pays them any attention. I did. I didn't marry him (thank Heaven), but I wanted to! The problem I see is the hypervalue the LDS puts on virginity. These girls are so well indoctrinated that they perceive sexual attraction as proof that their desired person must be their intended husband, and that experimentation is not acceptable. Responsible serial monogamy is not a bad thing--it's part of becoming an adult. As long as each party is willing to be honest with the other and commits to practicing safe sex, there's no reason why the couples shouldn't get to know each other in a more intimate way. After all, most of us wouldn't buy a car without a test drive, would we?

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    1. I was so glad to hear Robyn call the kids out on the real reason they can't wait to get married. I was astonished that both Christine and Janelle seemed to want to pretend that that isn't a fact, Jack.
      So, I surprise myself to say, Kudos, Robyn. Experience is a good teacher--lesson learned (albeit a bit too late for her, since she was pregnant before marriage.)
      I was reminded of Meri by a book I'm reading, "Five Presidents" by Clint Hill, who was a Secret Service agent from the end of Eisenhower to Ford. In the Eisenhower section, he talks at length about the U-2 spy plane that was shot down over Soviet airspace (1960) and the cover-up that ensued. Khrushchev was pissed; the Paris summit rendered no good.
      Hill says that "the consequences of the U-2 cover-up and his personal sense of defeat were devastating to President Eisenhower. Indeed, in an interview after he left the White House, he admitted the biggest mistake he made during his presidency was "the lie we told about the U-2. I didn't realize how high a price we were going to pay for that lie."".
      Meri's cover-up caused more trouble than admitting the wrongdoing at the outset. It seems like we all agree that those recordings are her voice, and oh, the things she said. It's hard to believe that she only said them because she felt coerced. Even if Kody has only listened to them once, that is enough to keep resonating.
      Meri's emotional talk with Kody indicates deep regret on her part. But when she said to Kody, "Do you want me to get down on my knees and beg?!" like that was an outrageous thing, I'm pretty sure that even THAT would not ever get Kody back into her life in a lovey lover kind of way that they used to have.
      Kody himself labeled Meri "fidelis" when concocting the 'iconic' jewelry. I think he can't believe what happened, and that he thinks that being kind and non-aggressive is all she 'deserves'--lovey dovey is out of the question.
      It's hard to blame him, even as much as he helped create the opportunity for 'the fall'. As much as he says there was no affair, I think that's just a way for him to compartmentalize his feelings.
      As much as I appreciate Robyn's input, it was nice to not have her headline the entire show.
      I also like checking out the inside of the houses--Christine now has those weird super tall "Alice in Wonderland" chairs that were Robyn's per Kody.
      Wish the producers would make the clips longer rather than editing them down so sparsely and then filling in with repetition of the same clips.

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    2. So true, B I B...It's usually never the lie that is the problem. It's always the cover up that becomes the story.

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  66. Finally catching up on the Tweets from the Brown clan last night. Feeling bad for Kody's sister - who gifted him the red sweater and is now being bashed for picking an awful sweater.

    Newsflash: The sweater was lovely. The problem was Kody's gut. Can't blame you sister for your bulging middle!

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  67. I do not want to sound superficial at all but Janelle is trying to sell healthy lifestyle. W.T.F? I cringe at how UNhealthy she looks. Not just physically, but spiritually worn as well. Flat affect, pasty skin, excess weight.
    Christine on the other hand looks fabulous. She could've sold me in a heartbeat.

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    1. It's not superficial when you are being sold a lifestyle that is such a con. You are exactly spot on, these people are always publicly proclaiming how some MIM scam is making them so healthy and happy. And every year they look worse and worse. Their mouths turned down in the corners with miserable frown lines. Huge weight gains and extreme mood changes. Not to mention the constantly traveling cold sore that appears on a different family member every show. Depression, over eating, frustration and lies... That's what they should be selling.

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    2. *that was MLM, multi level marketing, not MIM*

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    3. A few weeks ago "Last Week Tonight with Jon Oliver" did a story about MLM scams (I think they're very scammy) which was funny and interesting.
      Worth checking out.

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    4. Yes I saw it and immediately thought of the Browns. Thanks

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  68. i think mykelti is getting married for attention and to be noticed ! She's silently rebelling and I think it's hilarious ! She knows that it's a good way to get kodys attention. And Kody cannot give anyone advice on marriage . The whole world can see that he's terrible at it ,

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  69. Feeling real cynical about season 8, and since Cynical Jinx is the head and patented Cynic here, maybe Amused and "Skeptical" fits the mood.

    SO much of this 8th season entree episode smacks already of contrived, manipulated editing. They are obviously using Sobbin only for special commentary, that or she is unwilling to be available. And who really cares about that?
    But....without Sobbin fretting, tearing, laboring and remarrying, and now that Sam the Sham is on the permanent Lam while Meri stays put....TLC surely needed something beyond just the promised normal, nice Maddie wedding to warrant another season.

    SO...the entrance of Tony to Kodyworld had to be like striking GOLD for TLC...and for Kody !!!!
    Wow, a prospective son-in-law with assumed (and filmed) flaws, who is a stark contrast to Kody's bromance with #1 son-in-law,Caleb. And we all know how TLC will spin and twist it.
    And...just for ratings insurance, the Meri/Kody and the Meri/Janelle and the Meri/Mariah crises plots will be thrown in. Thanks to our fav therapist, Nancy (who should have a juicy paycheck this season), we should be glued to the screen for her insights.
    Hmm...wonder if she will be enlisted for Mykelti/Tony pre-marriage counseling?
    Think about it, TLC...more filler to have on hand for those "thin" episodes!

    The heavenly gifts just keep coming and coming to keeping KodyBoy perennially unemployed, yet still paid obscenely well for just getting his hair camouflage-fluffed and spouting his bloated drivel...amazing, isn't it ??!!

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    1. Hey Amused!

      I think the Brown's stay with Nancy the "therapist" because she tells them what they want to hear. She doesn't challenge them or make Kody do any real work. She is a terrible therapist but this show and the Brown idiots are probably paying off her house and giving her a nice balance in her bank account.

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    2. Ha ! Snarkaholic!!

      For sure, Nancy is the perfect paid "enabler."
      If anyone caught the mini 5 minute epp TLC aired with Meri/Janelle at Nancy's therapy session...it is quite funny..and quite ridiculous !!

      That over-stuffed, undersized leather love seat Nancy chose was an unfortunate choice for making Jangle attempt to share intimate space sitting next to Meri. Both women's posteriors looked to be squished like bagged marshmallows, just pleading for the director to yell "cut" !!
      You gotta look for the comedy watching Kodyworld, even the unintended humor.

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  70. Agree with all the comments about the Brown therapist being the worst in LV---or, perhaps, those who are going to see her do not really want any changes---they are only pretending, ergo, no changes occur. Do Meri and Janelle truly want a better relationship? Do Meri and Kody? One finds this all very doubtful as no progress has been made on those fronts, lo these many years.

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  71. I just caught Meri's tweet about decorating her 12 foot Christmas tree. It sounds like she's doing it alone. Sounds lonely.

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    1. ahhh...the 12 foot tree. the sisterwifes compete with everything. when they moved into "the homes" close to Christmas how ever many years ago that was, Robyn was the first to get a 12foot christmas tree then Meri. Meri decorated hers with cowboy ornaments just to piss of Janelle who decorated her new home with western stuff. all of this played out on twitter...

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  72. If you don't have enough money to fund 45 weddings of your 45 children all born within a few months of each other than they shouldn't have went so above and beyond for Maddies wedding. They should have given her a small amount and just said this is how much we can afford to contribute to each child. They knew they had a million kids. The idea that "We can't afford to help you with your wedding because we blew all our money and energy on your sister." is revolting. Wait out of respect to Maddie? None of those women waited to pop out kids in respect to each other having a shining moment. It's a little late to start saying things like "summer of 2016 belongs to Maddie."

    I know I am overly sensitive though. I got married this August after family members tried to tell me it would be better for them in Winter. It's someone's wedding day and anniversary that with the right about of love and luck and hard work will be their day for the rest of their lives. For me when balanced with our winter birthdays near so many other holidays, Summer was the best option for us as a couple You sit and look at calendars and the date matters. If they want a summer time wedding and don't want to wait a year then yea. This august. They may be doomed or to young or whatever else but they have the same right to try their hardest as any other adult in love. If Kody could manage to keep all these ladies around for so long I see no reason she can't make it work with this kid. Let them struggle together and let it bring them together or force them apart. Thats all anyone can do.

    Even after she said she didn't want the cost of a Maddie wedding by opting for a park instead...they tried to give her even less with their backyard. as an adult you are never owed a wedding by your parents but that they would go so far above and beyond for one child and have such disregard for the next was gross. Even if it is a mistake she deserves a chance.

    Also it is highly unlikely all of their children will marry their uncles brother in laws. So get used to not knowing each young man or woman on a personal level. You chose quantity.


    So even while I think it is ridiculous to come down on Mykelti. I did feel quite a bit of warmth for Janelle when I saw her up in arms about it. I don't think she is correct in thinking Mykelti should wait and let Maddie be the star at all. However. Janelle is the most complacent not caring creature I have ever seen. She took 20 something years before she started standing up for what kind of marriage she wanted to have. It was nice to see her fired up about Maddie because it was just nice to see her care about something.


    I wondered if Robyn didn't come because Maddie did not warm up to her and merely tolerates her. I can't recall their interactions now but it seems like Janelles older children always had the least amount of patience for Robyn and her nonsense. I wondered if maybe she wasn't welcome at Maddies wedding planning events. I may be way off the mark there though.

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    1. I absolutely agree, they are making such a big deal about Maddie's wedding and are throwing Mykelti to the side. I know Mykelti has been branded the "wild child," but she deserves the same respect for her wishes as Maddie got. I couldn't believe that Janelle got so up in arms about it, I guess she does care about her kids.

      I'm not impressed with Tony but that is Mykelti's choice. My mom's sisters didn't like my dad either but they were married over 40 years before he died.

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    2. Congrats on your wedding! I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. It's ridiculous to expect the kids to wait or hold off on marriage because another sibling is getting married etc. especially when so many are the same age or close in age. However, the Browns are good at playing favorites so this shouldn't surprise anyone. Poor Christine's kids are clearly the least important to Kody and crew, hence Truely almost dying on Kody's watch.

      I also wondered if Robyn was the only wife who could have cared less about Mykelti stealing Maddie's thunder because Maddie could care less about Robyn. Janelle's kids have been quite vocal about Robyn.

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  73. Who cares if Janelle and Meri get along? Why are they bothering with therapy?

    None of these women are connected to each other on earth if he dies. The same group of women aren't all going to all marry the same guy, God forbid he passes anytime soon. They do not live together. They are neighbors who occasionally share a bed with the same man on different nights and whose kids are half siblings. Half of their kids are grown.

    Where are the blessings? Can't they at least pretend if they are intent on being on tv and demanding the government to give them a license to do this?

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    1. KMS I fully agree. At this point who cares? I'm so sick of that story line. IF they hate each other or only "tolerate" one another so be it. I think they're doing that "story" for drama, but it's failing miserably (much like most of these 'marriages').

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    2. Ha, yes they are neigbhors who won't even wave hi to one another!!
      Didn't Jangle say she'd put her head down if she saw Meri outside her house?
      The therapy is to hopefully get some real REALITY drama. Put them in a very uncomfortable situation and let the fireworks begin...or at least some death glares. I don't think there's anything that would get janelle's pulse elevated.

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  74. This conversation between Kody and Meri about their relationship, reminds me of the conversation on the rocks about having another baby. She will throw it back on Kody on camera to make it look like it is Kody that dosnt want a relationship with her.She is counting on getting the sympathy from viewers like the baby storyline.

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    1. Agree. Perpetually the victim.

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    2. Their relationship is essentially over. She is "divorced" legally and also now in reality and now pretending to be married to a guy who has no time or space for her in his life. She's basically a concubine who got too old.

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  75. Thank you to the Sister Wives Production Team for not featuring Robyn so heavily in the opening episode! I may continue watching if she takes a backseat.

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  76. Hey Cynical Jinx thanks for still hosting the living room after all this time (and the show getting more and more boring). I know it's not easy to manage. I wanted to ask if you're still going to do episode recaps? Is there any way there can be awards this new season too? I miss the awards, those always gave me a giggle. We could call an award a "Tony" (haha nod) for someone saying something entitled and snobbish? Just a question. Thanks again. I am not WATCHING any of the episodes this season just reading the snark and hoping to keep up that way. I refuse to pay to see these and I have Roku so my options are buy on Amazon or go without. I choose WITHOUT!

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  77. Monogamous CharlotteDecember 16, 2016 at 9:21 AM

    Can I take a moment to recommend this book? It's in pre-order now. :D

    https://www.amazon.com/Polygamists-Daughter-Memoir-Anna-LeBaron/dp/1496417550/

    Also, though I haven't been much of a commenter of late I am a long time lurker here, and was a regular over at the old Sisterwives blog. I know this is about the episode and tweets and stuff, but can I share a personal story anyway?

    I'll try to keep it short...

    My mom was adopted and we knew it was because her dad went to prison for having more wives than was legal. We thought it was a sort of secret family thing, but we recently found the family online and learned that he was attempting to live Mormon polygamy in the early 1950s. As far as I know he wasn't in a fundy group, and was just trying to have lots of wives for the fun of it while being a regular Mormon. Anywho, if I could attach a picture I would share the clip from Newspapers.com because it is interesting to see that he was given 4 years on a charge of polygamy.

    I guess I am telling the story hear because I know you all would by sympathetic and interested and there aren't all that many people in the world interested in hearing random personal family stories. :P

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